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Old 09-05-2013, 08:02 PM   #136
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I had to list Hall. I know how much you like him so I couldn't resist. I agree with your overall perspective and analysis. I think the skins and cowpokes are close in terms of talent. The Cowboys have the edge in individual talent, we have an edge in team/system talent. Hard to explain that except through wins and losses, especially in head to head games.
I figured, but I still responded to be safe. Or sorry. Or whatever I was.

The original point is the Cowboys are an extreme outlier. They DO have all these players who are worth a ton of money to other teams, and they do have a quality roster, and for three consecutive years, they haven't figured out how to make it work over a 16 game season. The idea that if they just brought everyone back, they would figure it out this year is a VERY flawed premise. They are not MORE talented than in recent years. And they are likely doomed to the same fate.

All of this is true about the Cowboys, but it's also been true of the Redskins prior to 2012. It's always a little jarring when Redskins fans have short memories.

I'm not trying to crush anyones optimism before the season, I am just saying that the Redskins still have to prove to the fans that they are moving in the right direction. We can use 2012 as a stepping stone to much better things in 2013: we have the roster to do it. As we did in 2006 and 2009. I believe this year is different. But it won't take a whole lot to scare me into believing it isn't. I'm the textbook definition of cautiously optimistic about this season.
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:19 PM   #137
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Aren't the Dallas safeties one of the more obvious areas of concern throughout the league?
Why would the rest of the league have obvious concerns for Dallas safeties?

And there is no way they were worse than Madieu Williams and Doughty in pass coverage. Hall and Wilson were on an island whether they liked it or not all year.
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Why would the rest of the league have obvious concerns for Dallas safeties?

And there is no way they were worse than Madieu Williams and Doughty in pass coverage. Hall and Wilson were on an island whether they liked it or not all year.
The Dallas corners were on the same islands.
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:26 PM   #139
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The Dallas corners were on the same islands.
And teams actually ran against Dallas, limiting their passes against. They might have been bad, but no way their safeties were as bad as ours. When it comes to pass coverage, there were no worse safeties than what we had last year. Maybe New Orleans, but I doubt it.
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New Orleans gave up the most yards in NFL history last year. I think their safeties may have played a role in that.
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New Orleans gave up the most yards in NFL history last year. I think their safeties may have played a role in that.
I did mention NO, or did you miss that? Plus they were terrible everywhere. Our D-line and LB's were easily better than NO's. But we are specifically talking about safeties in pass coverage, not safeties in supporting the run or overall defense.
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I did mention NO, or did you miss that? Plus they were terrible everywhere. Our D-line and LB's were easily better than NO's. But we are specifically talking about safeties in pass coverage, not safeties in supporting the run or overall defense.
Our safeties weren't worse than theirs. That's why I said that.
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Our safeties weren't worse than theirs. That's why I said that.
When talking strictly about pass coverage, I still doubt it.
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When talking strictly about pass coverage, I still doubt it.
They gave up more passing yards, more yards per attempt, less INTs, etc.

The Bucs had the worst pass D overall.
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They gave up more passing yards, more yards per attempt, less INTs, etc.

The Bucs had the worst pass D overall.
You seem to be fixating on overall D. We are specifically talking about safeties in only pass defense, not overall safety play as ours were decent in run support. And Doughty, at times, was much better than that in run support.

Madieu Williams couldnt even figure out what over the top meant and Doughty knew what it meant but was usually to slow to pull it off.
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You seem to be fixating on overall D. We are specifically talking about safeties in only pass defense, not overall safety play as ours were decent in run support. And Doughty, at times, was much better than that in run support.

Madieu Williams couldnt even figure out what over the top meant and Doughty knew what it meant but was usually to slow to pull it off.
I'm just trying to focus on some tangibles vs having a subjective opinion is all. If the Saints safeties who played on the worst D of all time were better than ours in your opinion so be it. I just have a hard time believing it without something to back it up.
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NFC East- Skins
NFC North- Lions
NFC South- Saints
NFC West- Rams
Wildcards-Falcons, 9'ers

AFC East- Patriots
AFC North- Browns
AFC South- Texans
AFC-West- Broncos
Wildcards- Colts, Ravens

Superbowl - Falcons beat Broncos
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