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Old 09-09-2013, 11:42 PM   #61
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They don't have Oregon tape at Redskins park? Funny, because I have Oregon tape and all I have is the internet.
That wasn't the same offense he ran at Oregon. The tempo was similar but at Oregon there was more on an emphasize on the triple option and getting your playmakers in space using the option pitch.

Today I saw zone blocking with McCoy getting the ball cutting up field and a lot of missed tackled. Teams always struggle with brand new offenses in the NFL. Remember the wildcat?

I trust the defense watched a lot of tape of what they felt would be the closest resemblance of Kelly's offense in the NFL, it is just almost impossible to predict what a coach will do opening day in his first NFL game.
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From what I saw tonight, no way we win at Green Bay. They simply pass the ball too well for our secondary to deal with.
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Well, if you get torched by a talent lacking, run heavy Eagles team and then a talent loaded, pass heavy Packers team in back to back weeks, you don't have a good defense. Or even an average one.
I personally believe at best the Redskins have an average defense. I guess we will find out next week.
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I think everyone is overthinking tonite. Granted Im not nearly schooled on the x's and o's enough to go there, (so maybe im forced into a life of underthinking the games), but - what I saw was....
Rusty Griff = unisnspired, self deflated team full of guys who dont believe they can win.
Less Rusty Griff (imagine when he is completely un-rusted) = inspired, inflated team full of guys who believe anything is possible - even coming back from 33-7!
Our D allowed what 7 points in the second half? - and I dont want to hear any garbage about the eagles played prevent, blah blah blah. We made a major run at them in the latter part of the second half, and they couldnt stop it. 5 more minutes and we win that game.
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They don't have Oregon tape at Redskins park? Funny, because I have Oregon tape and all I have is the internet.

Fix the problems from this game by Week 2, and no one remembers this game. But you have to make those adjustments, quickly. Trailing by 18 at half to a bad football team at home is not typical of a good football team.
I'm just curious. Why do you think Philly is a bad team? I swear this entire town thought Jacksonville was rolling in here this week.
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GB has Clay Matthews. He makes all tackles look bad (yes even Trent is one). I think we need to run Morris a lot as well as change it up with Helu. If I'm Kyle and Mike I'm making Robert and Pierre/Josh/Santana work on that play-action post route which we missed and dropped a few times tonight. That was our bread and butter play last year. We're going to need that to get going into this season. Also I would use more of Reed AND Davis on the field at once.
I am more worried about how the Skins are going to stop Green Bay from putting up 40 points than scoring on Green Bay right now.

Also it seemed Reed replaced Davis for the majority of the 4th quarter. Does anyone know if Davis was hurt? Or did the Skins just take him out because Reed was playing better.
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I would agree, but I think McCoy is the PERFECT back for that offense, so much open field and space, and he is dang near impossible to get down 1 on 1.

It will slow down though if Vick gets hit, which he will.

Wish McCoy was in a different division.
I give Vick a few more games before we see Foles. He is just so reckless with his body that there is no way he holds up. But I gotta give him credit tonight, he looked outstanding in the new offense.
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I personally believe at best the Redskins have an average defense. I guess we will find out next week.
Our D got toasted pretty much in the second quarter. That is because we were winded beyond belief at that point. Our offense couldnt get a first down at that point. As soon as our offense found a rythym our defense hung in there. No defense in the world is going to stop that kind of tempo if they cant catch a breather for two minutes - in the second half our o started rolling and our defense was able to stop them. You are rite though........we will see next week. I believe we will win next week, as a matter of fact I believe we win handily.
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What game were you watching?

McCoy has LOADs of talent before Kellys gimmick offense came here. Vick was always a big play QB. DeSean jackson is another fast and explosive player. The whole OL for Philly is a complete 180 from last years team. Celek is a good TE.

So where is this talent lacking beside a few areas on the defense?


The Packers are different because they don't run as fast of a paced offense as Philly does. We're used to them, so next week we better not be playing the fake the injury cause we're tired card or the 'we've never seen this offense before' card either.
Lol...I think McCoy starts for every team in the league except Minnesota.
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Next time we play the Eagles, stopping McCoy needs to be #1 priority. I'll take our chances with them throwing all the bubble screens. Make them throw 20 bubble screens and punish McCoy/Vick all game.
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What game were you watching?

McCoy has LOADs of talent before Kellys gimmick offense came here. Vick was always a big play QB. DeSean jackson is another fast and explosive player. The whole OL for Philly is a complete 180 from last years team. Celek is a good TE.

So where is this talent lacking beside a few areas on the defense?


The Packers are different because they don't run as fast of a paced offense as Philly does. We're used to them, so next week we better not be playing the fake the injury cause we're tired card or the 'we've never seen this offense before' card either.
McCoy is great, but if you thought that the Eagles scored a bunch of points because they were really talented, you're going to really hate playing the rest of the league.

I mean, if DeSean Jackson's your second best player (or Brent Celek, whoever), that says a lot. It's not that Jackson, Celek aren't good, but you can handle them one on one.

You can credit the Eagles for getting their sh-t together with what they had, and I thought they had a really impressive effort tonight. But that team is McCoy, a couple of face cards, and a crappy hand.
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That wasn't the same offense he ran at Oregon. The tempo was similar but at Oregon there was more on an emphasize on the triple option and getting your playmakers in space using the option pitch.

Today I saw zone blocking with McCoy getting the ball cutting up field and a lot of missed tackled. Teams always struggle with brand new offenses in the NFL. Remember the wildcat?

I trust the defense watched a lot of tape of what they felt would be the closest resemblance of Kelly's offense in the NFL, it is just almost impossible to predict what a coach will do opening day in his first NFL game.
You...aren't familiar with Oregon, I'm guessing.

McCoy creates a lot of missed tackles. But that's not something we didn't know going into this game, and it's not an excuse.

I'm just not into making excuses for a lack of preparation. If you can be unprepared for what the Eagles brought tonight, you can be unprepared for any offense. What they were running wasn't particularlr unique, they just are good at constraining defenses. Which is exactly what the Redskins offense did so well last year.
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As am I. But like I mentioned we should have better defensive substitutions and packages with Rodgers the green bays offense than we did tonight with Phillys quick gimmicky college offense.

Also we may get Brandon Meriweather back next week, so we should see. We somehow beat the Packers a few years ago with McNabb and bad players on both sides of the ball, so I like our chances (not saying we will win, saying we'll keep it close and reasonable) with Green Bay having gotten worse on both sides of the ball since then (OL, DL, MLB, Safety)
I agree with having a better chance against GB. I just have to see something to actually give me confidence in the skins defense before I start to think they are the real deal. Giving up 250 yards rushing to any opponent makes me question a lot of things about your defense.
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McCoy is great, but if you thought that the Eagles scored a bunch of points because they were really talented, you're going to really hate playing the rest of the league.

I mean, if DeSean Jackson's your second best player (or Brent Celek, whoever), that says a lot. It's not that Jackson, Celek aren't good, but you can handle them one on one.

You can credit the Eagles for getting their sh-t together with what they had, and I thought they had a really impressive effort tonight. But that team is McCoy, a couple of face cards, and a crappy hand.
True - even just in our division - look at Dallas - Austin, Bryant, Witten, and the Giants with Cruz, Nicks, and Myers.
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