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Old 09-10-2013, 12:05 AM   #76
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Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread

Is this the thread to start talking about how good Leonard Hankerson is and how we can stop screwing around with Josh Morgan as a starting WR anytime now?
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You...aren't familiar with Oregon, I'm guessing.

McCoy creates a lot of missed tackles. But that's not something we didn't know going into this game, and it's not an excuse.

I'm just not into making excuses for a lack of preparation. If you can be unprepared for what the Eagles brought tonight, you can be unprepared for any offense. What they were running wasn't particularlr unique, they just are good at constraining defenses. Which is exactly what the Redskins offense did so well last year.
I actually watched a lot of Oregon games. One of the staples of the offense was a fake handoff to Barnes, Mariota would take it into space and pitch it to DeAnthony Thomas. I also love to watch Oregon lose because I knew their offense was like any other offense where it could be stopped by a disciplined, physical defense, like LSU or Stanford. I have always rooted for defenses.
I agree that the coaches weren't as prepared as I hoped they would be. I said throughout the game that the Skins coaching staff was being outcoached by Kelly for the majority of the game.
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To those who don't believe in preseason games to use to prepare for the regular season, this game is a perfect argument against that. Morris and Griffin both needed at least 2 quarters to get going. And made mistakes that in the first half and early part of the 2nd that doomed them for the rest of the game.

But after saying that, I knew there was no way that Griffin was ever going to play in the preseason, even in hindsight. If Griffin played in the preseason and got hurt in any kind of way, that would've been the end of Shanahan.
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Yea there are a lot of teams more talented than the Eagles at their skill positions. Especially teams that the Skins would run into in the playoffs, if they made it that far.
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Is this the thread to start talking about how good Leonard Hankerson is and how we can stop screwing around with Josh Morgan as a starting WR anytime now?
Why would you do that? Both were productive in their respective roles in this game.
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Give the Eagles credit, they executed and we just missed way too many tackles.

Haslett said he watched 23-24 game tapes on Oregon so I'm sure the D wasn't caught off guard scheme wise. Fletcher said they didn't run anything they haven't seen before. We just got out played.
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I actually watched a lot of Oregon games. One of the staples of the offense was a fake handoff to Barnes, Mariota would take it into space and pitch it to DeAnthony Thomas. I also love to watch Oregon lose because I knew their offense was like any other offense where it could be stopped by a disciplined, physical defense, like LSU or Stanford. I have always rooted for defenses.
I agree that the coaches weren't as prepared as I hoped they would be. I said throughout the game that the Skins coaching staff was being outcoached by Kelly for the majority of the game.
Point was not that Oregon never ran the triple option, it was that (at least in the running game) everything they ran tonight was on tape already. Nothing was created in the last eight months.

He adopted some NFL passing plays, the Jackson TD was taken right out of Andy Reid's playbook. Kyle runs that play all the time too.

Kelly gives them a nice schematic advantage. But a schematic advantage should always lose out to a talent advantage in the long run. One game is not a long run...but I suddenly have no desire to see this matchup of coaches played twice every season.
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At the risk of sounding repetitive - I cant hear anymore about our Defense - our defense had one bad quarter - the second quarter. We held them to 7 points in the second half and that was on a short field after the int. Our offense could not stay on the field for more than two minutes until midway through the third quarter. Our defense was reeling in by the second quarter and that was by far their worst quarter. If we could have sustained just a couple drives in the first half for any amount of time, even if we came up empty at the end, we probably would have won the game.
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I think it's too early to judge anything from this first game. Cliché, but I think at least they tried to fight back and made it a one possession game. Pre-Griffin, the final score would've been 54 - 7. I don't think that's really exaggerating.

The Redskins need to regroup and look at the positives, because it's still one game out of 16. And there's a lot that they can learn from this game. Especially in the way they need to play the eagles the next time.
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Why would you do that? Both were productive in their respective roles in this game.
Because since Week 1 of last season, one has been clearly more valuable than the other.

The Redskins like Morgan because he blocks like a tight end on the edge, which is nice when your gameplan is to run it down their throats. But sometimes, you have to throw the football as well. And having him on the field hurts you on those plays.
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The next time we play the eagles it will be a lot different. RG3 was rusty.. that was to be expected. We will slow the game down with our offense to give our defense a chance to catch their breath. Under the circumstances,I'm glad the Redskins fought back. We will have more film on the Eagles as well and will be better prepared. That was the worst start of a Redskins game that I've seen in over 30yrs....but we fought back and made a game of it.
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To those who don't believe in preseason games to use to prepare for the regular season, this game is a perfect argument against that. Morris and Griffin both needed at least 2 quarters to get going. And made mistakes that in the first half and early part of the 2nd that doomed them for the rest of the game.

But after saying that, I knew there was no way that Griffin was ever going to play in the preseason, even in hindsight. If Griffin played in the preseason and got hurt in any kind of way, that would've been the end of Shanahan.
I was never a believer until tonite.....in the back of my mind for the last several weeks there was this little voice that kept saying "do you think Griff will be up to speed for game one?" - I kept telling him to shut the hell up, that he is a professional athlete and that preseason games are stupid - hes running on a treadmill, and doing 11 on 11 drills. I owe that little voice an apology.
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I just think they knew Griff wasn't a threat to run. They were not respecting any of our play action at all.
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Point was not that Oregon never ran the triple option, it was that (at least in the running game) everything they ran tonight was on tape already. Nothing was created in the last eight months.

He adopted some NFL passing plays, the Jackson TD was taken right out of Andy Reid's playbook. Kyle runs that play all the time too.

Kelly gives them a nice schematic advantage. But a schematic advantage should always lose out to a talent advantage in the long run. One game is not a long run...but I suddenly have no desire to see this matchup of coaches played twice every season.
Caching in the NFL comes from tendencies there is no way the Redskins had information on what Kelly would be able to do on defense and offense. These were newish schemes for the Eagles in particular. You didn't have those players running that offense on tape. Sorry but what we saw out the gate was new to us and the NFL. Compound that with awful field position for both the offense and defense of the Redskins for the entire first half and into the third quarter. Miscues are what lost the Redskins the game. Morris fumbles on our first play, Griffin comes out throwing picks, and looks terrible in the first half.

The offense didnt give the defense any chance to rest and gave them half the field to work with.
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Caching in the NFL comes from tendencies there is no way the Redskins had information on what Kelly would be able to do on defense and offense. These were newish schemes for the Eagles in particular. You didn't have those players running that offense on tape. Sorry but what we saw out the gate was new to us and the NFL. Compound that with awful field position for both the offense and defense of the Redskins for the entire first half and into the third quarter. Miscues are what lost the Redskins the game. Morris fumbles on our first play, Griffin comes out throwing picks, and looks terrible in the first half.

The offense didnt give the defense any chance to rest and gave them half the field to work with.
I'm simply not interested in making the excuses you are. You can make them, but they're still excuses.
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