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Old 09-10-2013, 09:15 AM   #121
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Plenty of scapegoats....the fumble on Morris was bad, the pitch was on RG3, the oline got abused, the safeties were pathetic, RG3 played poorly, D-line and LB's were out of position and Forbath missed a kick....

It's one game but next week sure looks like a must win and Green Bay is thinking the same thing.
And right now I would trust Green Bay to respond with a great effort more than I would trust the skins to win the game.
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:15 AM   #122
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We beat GB at home a few years back when LL Picked off AR late
Oh you are right and it went to OT. That was the 2010 game. Fawk that screws up my analyst we are DOOMED!
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On the one hand, D Hall's TD was great. On the other it gave the defense no time to rest. That being said, I was disappointed to see how tired the defense looked to start the game. Tired and sloppy. First game of the season, first quarter even, and you look like you're playing in OT of week 16.
I don't think the D was slow it was more that they did not know what was coming. As they figured out what the Eagles were doing the better they looked.
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^lmao I hope not. Did anyone notice the passes Griff was making in the 4th? He looked on point and his last TD pass was beautiful.
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:31 AM   #125
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I was unable to actually see most of the game, but did get to listen to it on the radio. This is my take and perception:

1. OL was bad. could not create holes or running lanes.
2. Morris was rusty. team stuck with him for too long.
3. WR needed plays to help out RG3. curl and slant routes.
4. Defense took too long to adjust to opponent. 4th series they finally used stunts.
5. Script.

Ok, so I'll break it down now.
#1. If I'm the opponent and I know you are going to play your QB who was injured, then I'm thinking...there is a 80-90% chance you are not going to have him running the ball in the first game of the season. So although you might line up in the option...I doubt your going to have him run the ball. So that limits to him handing the ball off to a RB/FB or passing. So I'd plan on stacking the DL and rushing at you every play. (Same thing they used to do to Grossman which is why we picked up McNabb and finally RG3). I'd challenge you to get make the throws and hopefully not give you time enough to get someone open. EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. There were no run lanes cause they were blocked by the rushing DL.

#2. Morris had a bad game. It happens. I might have stuck Helu in for a couple of plays a lot sooner just to see if his "change of pace" would make the defense back off.

#3. Clearly with the defense rushing and forcing RG3 to pass or trying to he didn't have much time. The coaches should have started using 5 yrd curls, 5 yrd slants, and screen plays to slow the defense down and back them up.

#4. I did get to see the first 30 min. on TV. Personally with any film to study and not knowing what they were going to bring our D was going to have a difficult time. But I didn't think they were as bad as I've heard some people say they were. Even the radio announcers mentioned that around the 4th series our D finally started getting pressure cause of the stunts they were using. I was hoping and expecting our D to be on the sideline ready to change people out after every two plays in order to keep people fresh. But this requires the players to be standing on the sideline paying attention and ready to run on the field as soon as the whistle is blown and ready to run off the field as soon as the whistle is blown. There is no time to go sit on the bench.

#5. Almost every team scripts their first 20-30 plays. That usually takes them to halftime. I understand it didn't help that we had 3 turn overs in 7 plays, 1 INT., 1 fumble, and 1 fumble to a safety. However, if you see what the defense if doing and what they are not giving you ... you have to make adjustments. The Redskins didn't make adjustments until halftime in the 3rd quarter.

Having said all this I don't think our season is doomed or busted. Now we have some film on the Eagles. We know what they are planning to do and can adjust for it. Plus we don't see them again until week 11 which gives us more film to see and game plan for as well as see what other teams doing against them.
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I don't like loosing but I think this loss will do more good for RGIII then it will hurt us.
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Bottom line is that their guys turned up ready to bust a gut in their attempt to win the game. Our guys just turned up expecting to win with no fire in their bellies. Hopefully that won't happen again.
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I know everyone is wondering why Morris wasn't himself. All you have to ask is- what was different at this time last year? When the New Orleans game came around, Griffin and Morris were sharp and ready to go. Maybe the lack of preseason snaps, maybe distractions and attention to media? Maybe not THE reason, but it all had to play a part. They have to get focused again and remember what got them to the NFC East division champion last season.
Morris by all accounts had a great offseason and training camp. I think he just had an off night and wasn't getting great blocking either. 2 fumbles in one game isn't him at all. He'll get back on track no doubt.
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They did run for 250+ yards, have almost 450 yards of total offense and score 33 points. Offense obviously played poorly but that doesn't excuse the defense looking bad, especially with tackling and gap discipline. Honestly, the entire teamplayed poorly the first half.
They had 26 total first downs, we had 25.
They had 4 drives start in our territory. We had one start in their's.
Out of 13 drives 10 of ours started between our endzone and the 20 yd line.
Out of 14 drives 5 of theirs started between their EZ and the 20yd line.

Our 1st 3 drives ended fumble, interception, safety. Theirs ended Fumble, FG, TD

McCoy is an elite elusive back. He got 184 yds. The one thing that Reid never did was use McCoy like a workhorse. If Kelly does, than that's a point in his favor.

I just think putting this loss on the defense, when they got a TD recovery, and late set us up deep in their territory is mis-focused.
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where was Orakpo last night? He just hasn't lived up to the hype lately, he said he wanted to win the DPOY and he didn't do anything last night
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They had 26 total first downs, we had 25.
They had 4 drives start in our territory. We had one start in their's.
Out of 13 drives 10 of ours started between our endzone and the 20 yd line.
Out of 14 drives 5 of theirs started between their EZ and the 20yd line.

Our 1st 3 drives ended fumble, interception, safety. Theirs ended Fumble, FG, TD

McCoy is an elite elusive back. He got 184 yds. The one thing that Reid never did was use McCoy like a workhorse. If Kelly does, than that's a point in his favor.

I just think putting this loss on the defense, when they got a TD recovery, and late set us up deep in their territory is mis-focused.
Totally agree with you. Football is a lot about field position. You can't give the opponent the ball within your 30 or 40 yrd line. We had 3 turn overs in 7 plays that alone does not give the defense time to rest then we had 2 or 3 horrible punts giving the Eagles the ball on our side of the field.

Someone needs to talk with the punt returner and get them all on the same page. You DON'T field a kick inside your 10 yrd line and they did all night long. We had 4 or 5 times we started inside our 10 yrd line. One of which was due to a penalty.
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:58 AM   #132
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Bottom line is that their guys turned up ready to bust a gut in their attempt to win the game. Our guys just turned up expecting to win with no fire in their bellies. Hopefully that won't happen again.
You are absolutely correct. We got outcoached before the opening kickoff even happened. We were not ready to play and we looked like the team with the new coach because of it.
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where was Orakpo last night? He just hasn't lived up to the hype lately, he said he wanted to win the DPOY and he didn't do anything last night
Trying to be honest. Orakpo was there but it looked like he was being held most of the first half and the refs were not calling it. The refs finally started calling it late second quarter and second half.

I'll give the Eagles credit. This is exactly what I was afraid would happen. while all my friends were talking Super Bowl I stayed reserved.

I don't know what I would have done differently not knowing what the Eagles were going to do. I might have started Cousins and tried to see how he did against the Eagles defense, BUT.... this game is also all about money. People came to the game to see RG3. The reason our first game was Mon. night was so all the league could see RG3. People and media would have been upset if the team put Cousin in to start.

but keep in mind his timing might have been better with Morris and the WR's. If it looked like a cluster then I would have put RG3 in just to try and make something happen. But that's why I'm not a HC.
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To simplify........
We got manhandled and...OUT executed in virtually every phase of the game (and coaching).
Thankfully, we have 15 more opportunities
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0-1 isn't anything to get worked up about, as the first week tends to be the least predictive. Anyone remember how good the 2011 Redskins played in the opener?

0-2 is a different story. If this is a playoff team, we'll take a lot of frustration from this first half out on Green Bay. Problem is, they're looking to do the same thing to us. There's no such thing as a must win in the first two weeks, but even good teams that begin 0-2 usually don't recover to make the playoffs.
This. I don't think I'd be nearly as upset/concerned about this... if we didn't have to go to Green Bay next week. This is the territory that comes with winning the division though and playing a tougher schedule. Still, we gotta find a way to go 2-2 going into our bye. I think Detroit and Oakland are both winnable games. Green Bay is tough...

The one saving grace is... I think the winner of the NFC East might be 9-7. The Eagles were really impressive for a half, but otherwise, I don't think any of the four NFC East teams really looked that great in week one.

It's a long season, I was encouraged by the second half....but man I really wish we didn't have to play the Packers thsi week.
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