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Old 09-15-2013, 11:01 PM   #106
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I did and I 100% stand by it, get a HC and OC that understand how to run an NFL offense and you'll see RG3 excel. Lose the Read-Option crap, run a Pats/Saints type O and use the entire field and you will see RG3 put up consistent HoF numbers.
If Warren Moon had been drafted in the 70's, like he should have been, he would most likely had every passing record there is. Sorry, RG3 does not have the passing ability that Warren Moon had. End of discussion.
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Dont leave out the bad kicking job that Sav Rocca has been doing as well. He had yet another short kick today as well. Thats not our issue for losing these games but thats not an nfl punter stat line who kicks line drives
Yep. Him and London need to go next year, they make our average team age a lot worse than what it is, and their age is really showing. Go young all over.
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Old 09-15-2013, 11:09 PM   #108
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I did and I 100% stand by it, get a HC and OC that understand how to run an NFL offense and you'll see RG3 excel. Lose the Read-Option crap, run a Pats/Saints type O and use the entire field and you will see RG3 put up consistent HoF numbers.
RG would be a monster paired with those coaches. There's lots of coaches that would maximize his potential WITHOUT also making him a human piñata. Anyone who's experienced with a spread style like NO and certainly anyone who's shown the ability to mold scheme around personnel: Darth Hoody, Harbough brothers, Pete Carol, Jon fox. Who else?
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I don't think any second year player should be compared to hall of famers. Including RG3 to Moon or Luck to Manning. At least until they prove they can sustain success of a couple of years.
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I don't think any second year player should be compared to hall of famers. Including RG3 to Moon or Luck to Manning. At least until they prove they can sustain success of a couple of years.
I always liked Warren Moon.
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Old 09-15-2013, 11:55 PM   #112
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If Warren Moon had been drafted in the 70's, like he should have been, he would most likely had every passing record there is. Sorry, RG3 does not have the passing ability that Warren Moon had. End of discussion.
Obviously only time will tell, but I'm not the only one who has compared RG3 to a HoF QB:

NFL - Bill Polian - Why RG3 is a prototypical QB - ESPN

Keep in mind in RG3's senior season at Baylor he completed over 72% of his passes and thru his first few games in 2011 had more TDs than incompletions. Even in the RO offense last year he completed 65% of his passes for a 102 QB rating.

Different eras of course, but Moon's completion % was over 60% in only 6 yrs. of his NFL career. RG3 has all the physical and mental tools to be every bit the passer Moon was.....it remains to be seen if Allen & Snyder can see how his growth as a passer is being stunted by MS/KS.
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RG would be a monster paired with those coaches. There's lots of coaches that would maximize his potential WITHOUT also making him a human piñata. Anyone who's experienced with a spread style like NO and certainly anyone who's shown the ability to mold scheme around personnel: Darth Hoody, Harbough brothers, Pete Carol, Jon fox. Who else?
I like what Coach Sumlin has done at A&M, he's gone head-to-head with Bama two years in a row....granted and untimely Bama fumble helped A&M greatly on Sat., but still a great job by Sumlin at A&M.

Jim Mora's doing some good things at UCLA and may be looking to get back into the NFL. Both his OC & DC have NFL experience and are key to UCLA's revival.
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Old 09-16-2013, 12:16 AM   #114
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For The record: Redskins have been out gained in yards 695-230 in the first half this season. They have been out scored 50-7, with the lone TD coming from a defensive TD against Philadelphia.
That pretty much sums it up...

As far as I am concerned you can pretty much throw out the second half of these first two games. Misleading garbage yards and points.

This team is nothing short of terrible right now. The bad O is making it worse for the bad D, which is making it even worse for the bad O...snowball...


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Old 09-16-2013, 12:44 AM   #115
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I think we lose to detroit and oakland is not a bad team infact they might beat us we are not good against oakland and mcfadden going to have 100 yards could be trouble. I think our first win is against dallas.
You know what bruv...I think you're right. Det, with Megatron, Bush, Stafford, has some real fire power. I can imagine a blowout loss, again, next week.
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Why can't Griffin be compared to Steve young? Or john elway? It gets old comparing race to race, I agree with cam Newton when he said "what's the big deal about black Qbs "
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Why can't Griffin be compared to Steve young? Or john elway? It gets old comparing race to race, I agree with cam Newton when he said "what's the big deal about black Qbs "
Too early to compare him to HOF players.
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I think we lose to detroit and oakland is not a bad team infact they might beat us we are not good against oakland and mcfadden going to have 100 yards could be trouble. I think our first win is against dallas.
We hung a 35 on them with a jacked up Jason Campbell we can stop McFadden we can win that game, and to you fairweather fans WE CAN BEAT DETROIT next week!

Kyle Shanahan let RGIII be RGIII open the playbook to him run the read option if you don't feel safe about it well he shouldn't be playing. Either let him do what he does or don't play him. This pocket crap is for Kirk Cousins and Rex, It's like we're forcing RGIII to be a run of the mill QB and thats not what we drafted him for.

Secondly the offense has to be in sync no more blocks to the back etc and missed routes.

Third DEFENSE STOP SOMEBODY these rookies in the secondary better cover better.

and finally......for god sakes WRAP UP when you lay the hit.

But seriously if RGIII isn't 100% he shouldn't be in the game. This is hurting the team The eagles was a winnable game.
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Old 09-16-2013, 02:08 AM   #119
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You know what bruv...I think you're right. Det, with Megatron, Bush, Stafford, has some real fire power. I can imagine a blowout loss, again, next week.
Would be the first time in the HISTORY of this team Detroit has beat us at home...and by history I mean some pretty terrible redskins teams. Somehow I don't think 16-0 against the Lions at home is going to fall Sunday. Even Pat Ramsay beat these guys.
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-I want Reed to play more. He was one of the only sure tacklers we had on defense today.

- Amerson/Rambo were missing tackles, and out of position a few times. The one play it looked like we checked off the coverage, and everyone knew it put Amerson. It resulted in a TD pass.

- RG3 is still looking like he's holding back. I can't really explain it, but even on his roll outs he looks a bit slower. It could just be the knee brace preventing him from bursting, but you can see the rust. He was bobbling snaps, faking the wrong way, messing up the play, dancing in the pocket, and overthrowing a lot of WR's today.

- We need to start playing more man coverage. I know a lot of you think this is crazy since you lack faith in our secondary, but with 2 rookies, and a good pass rush. I feel like the best route is to man up and pressure the QB. Most of our touchdowns allowed have been from blown coverages, and I feel like it'll help the rookies out by playing more man.

- A lot of people didn't like Danny Smith, but i'll be damned if we had all these bonehead penalties over and over and over again on special teams when he was here. It seems like we can't even have our special teams on the field without a penalty. Hell, even our onside kick last week had a penalty.

- Oh, and before I forget... Jordan Reed seems to have the best hands on the team this season. The guy catches everything. I wouldn't be surprised to see him take over the starting role by the bye week.
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