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Old 09-20-2013, 10:06 AM   #151
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If we are 0-4 come the bye it is probably the end of Jim here especially with Morris in the wings.
If we go 0-4 it probably spells the end of a lot of people here.

I don't think we will though.
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2-2 folks and then we will beat dallas on SNF bank on it
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Old 09-20-2013, 10:20 AM   #153
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I am going 2-2 at the break too!
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You knew what to expect with Haslett. I do know why he would/should be the fall guy. This isn't his team, his vision. The offense has been nearly as bad as the defense through Mikes tenure, with last year being the outlier.
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I was never very excited over Haslett to begin with and if he gets dumped during or after the season, I will not shed a tear. That said, if he is dumped mid-season, then they might mean that the 'skins are in a lot of trouble. I think if the offense can have a breakout game and get back to 2012 form, a lot of this worry will kind of start to go away.
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You knew what to expect with Haslett. I do know why he would/should be the fall guy. This isn't his team, his vision. The offense has been nearly as bad as the defense through Mikes tenure, with last year being the outlier.
I know you love to to pile on Shanahan at any chance, but as defensive coordinator the performance of the D ultimately falls on Haslett. That just comes with the territory. He needs to get things figured out.
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I know you love to to pile on Shanahan at any chance, but as defensive coordinator the performance of the D ultimately falls on Haslett. That just comes with the territory. He needs to get things figured out.
Well yes and no.Haslett is responsible for the defense Now,but it was Shanahans hare brained ideal to hire Haslett and blow up our 4-3 defense that was never suited to run the 3-4 and weve pretty much sucked since then,so you could kinda say its all Shanahans fault
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Well yes and no.Haslett is responsible for the defense Now,but it was Shanahans hare brained ideal to hire Haslett and blow up our 4-3 defense that was never suited to run the 3-4 and weve pretty much sucked since then,so you could kinda say its all Shanahans fault
Nobody forced Haslett to take the job.

We have the 3-4 personnel now. Haslett has to make it work.
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I know you love to to pile on Shanahan at any chance, but as defensive coordinator the performance of the D ultimately falls on Haslett. That just comes with the territory. He needs to get things figured out.
I agree that Shanahan can't be held responsible for the effectiveness of the week to week defensive gameplan, but rewind half a decade to the Gibbs era, and we were just in a different category in terms of defensive ability. You didn't have to worry about the week to week defensive gameplan six years ago. Strong defense was the expectation.

The organization is different now. Defense is a struggle. It's a struggle when Haslett is on point and it's a struggle when he's doing things that don't make sense. He's going to have to accept responsibility when the unit performance is unacceptable, but I don't know if Haslett is the reason the defense has gone backwards in the last five years.

I just don't think there has been a high priority on acquiring and keeping great defensive players.

I think we have some really good defensive players, and some really good defensive prospects, and it's on Haslett to turn those guys into a strong unit, but we're also forced to rely on no-upside guys like Baccari Rambo and EJ Biggers in major roles, and that's a tough thing to scheme around.
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Nobody forced Haslett to take the job.

We have the 3-4 personnel now. Haslett has to make it work.
Nobody forced Haslett to take the job? That has got to be the lamest excuse for Shanahan I've ever heard
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Old 09-20-2013, 02:17 PM   #163
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Shanahan in my opinion deserves some of the blame for how bad the D has looked.

It is similar to Rex Ryan, the New York Jets defense is incredible, but their offense is terrible.

Both coaches deserve some of the blame because they are head coaches, not coordinators.
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Nobody forced Haslett to take the job? That has got to be the lamest excuse for Shanahan I've ever heard

I don’t think Matty's statement was as much an excuse for Shanahan as it was an indictment on Haslett. He has to figure out how to get this D rolling - four quarters per game. It's his D. Of course Shanahan bears some responsibility for it - that is part of the deal if you are the HC.

Haslett figured it out last year, right? People were praising him for the “mid-season adjustments he made” which played a major role in the team running off seven in a row to win the division. It is still early, maybe he can do the same this year…

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Well yes and no.Haslett is responsible for the defense Now,but it was Shanahans hare brained ideal to hire Haslett and blow up our 4-3 defense that was never suited to run the 3-4 and weve pretty much sucked since then,so you could kinda say its all Shanahans fault
Well, for one thing Haslett wasn't Shanahan's 1st or even 2nd choice. In fact, and this is going to open up a whole other can of worms, I think a "higher power" may have strongly suggested Haslett. Do I know this for a fact? No, but I do know about some other things which would lead me to think that's quite possible.

As for switching from a 4-3. No problem with that at all. We were in a 4-3 with guys like Carter, Wynn, Daniels. You look at where the league was headed offensively, what players on D were becoming available via the draft and FA, and you make a decision based on that as far as where you want the D to be in 5 years (from Mike's 5 year plan). I don't think the "we were a 4-3 in 2009 defense, so we should stay that way" argument holds much weight
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