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Old 09-20-2013, 04:04 PM   #181
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Re: Washington Redskins vs Detroit Lions Pregame Thread

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Nobody forced Haslett to take the job? That has got to be the lamest excuse for Shanahan I've ever heard
It's not an excuse for Shanahan, I'm saying Haslett is the DC and his job is to run the D, simple as that.

I don't buy any excuses for him, sorry.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:06 PM   #182
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Re: Washington Redskins vs Detroit Lions Pregame Thread

Seems like a couple of teams each year switch to the 3-4. Not sure why it's viewed as some sort of crazy idea.
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The reason the Skins struggle on D is not because of the 3-4.

If the Skins couldn't tackle or cover in a 3-4... what makes people think they would be able to cover or tackle in a 4-3. Still the same players having to make the same kind of plays.
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The reason the Skins struggle on D is not because of the 3-4.

If the Skins couldn't tackle or cover in a 3-4... what makes people think they would be able to cover or tackle in a 4-3. Still the same players having to make the same kind of plays.
This I agree with. The 3-4 is quite successful in the league, so it's not an issue with the defensive set up. Players have to tackle, it's as simple as that.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:20 PM   #185
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The reason the Skins struggle on D is not because of the 3-4.

If the Skins couldn't tackle or cover in a 3-4... what makes people think they would be able to cover or tackle in a 4-3. Still the same players having to make the same kind of plays.
Exactly.

I'm amazed that some people are still hung up on the 3-4.

Talent & execution always brings the most out of a scheme.
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It's not an excuse for Shanahan, I'm saying Haslett is the DC and his job is to run the D, simple as that.

I don't buy any excuses for him, sorry.
I said:
"Haslett is responsible for the defense Now,but it was Shanahans hare brained ideal to hire Haslett and blow up our 4-3 defense that was never suited to run the 3-4 and weve pretty much sucked since then,so you could kinda say its all Shanahans fault"

You replied:
"Nobody forced Haslett to take the job."

How else am I supposed to interpret that?
Thats like a daycare hiring a child molester than when something bad happens saying well nobody forced the child molester to take the job.

As far as teams switching to the 3-4 every year,so what,thats got nothing to do with the situation as it was back then
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Anyone else notice how much press-man coverage the Chiefs played last night? Why don't the Redskins do more of that? At least hit the guy before he gets into his route. With Orakpo and Kerrigan coming from the edges, that's all they need, is a little more time to get to the QB.
We don't have the most physical corners around.

And if you want to play press it helps to have some good safeties behind them, another thing we're lacking.
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Defense was 28th last year in yards, and has 2 rookies starting in the secondary. We had no cap space to do anything. I'm not sure why anyone thought they would even be middle of the pack. Getting back cap space hopefully means more veterans competing for jobs next year.
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I don't really agree with skip bayless on most things but I agree with most of the things he said in this article.

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I said:
"Haslett is responsible for the defense Now,but it was Shanahans hare brained ideal to hire Haslett and blow up our 4-3 defense that was never suited to run the 3-4 and weve pretty much sucked since then,so you could kinda say its all Shanahans fault"

You replied:
"Nobody forced Haslett to take the job."

How else am I supposed to interpret that?
Thats like a daycare hiring a child molester than when something bad happens saying well nobody forced the child molester to take the job.

As far as teams switching to the 3-4 every year,so what,thats got nothing to do with the situation as it was back then
As Smootsmack pointed out, Haslett was not Shanahan's first or even second choice. Do you think bringing in defensive coordinators is as easy as just running down to your local Walmart to pick one up?
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the whole 3-4 4-3 debate is so old. Our defense showed last year that with a well running offense, we can win games with them. We upgraded at safety (Rambo >> Merriweather). We sustained on CBs. We aren't going to be a shut down D, our old defenses weren't shut down D's, and several times they gave up game winning drives.

This team as constructed can, and should, be doing better. Only time will tell if they do.
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Bottomline is the defense should be playing better than it is. Everyone is accountable. This defense may have some rookies and some older vets in their last year, but the entire unit is better than its shown on the field so far. Last year run proves that. Haslett needs to do a better job as well, if not he doesnt come back next year fo sho.
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Two games into the season. There are 14 more games to go. The defense will improve, as so the offense. Just hang in there guys.
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The Redskins have to score early. I'm confident the Skins can score and will get better offensively. I'm more concerned about the defense. This is the worse defense in the NFL. Receivers are wide open. The tackling is horrendous. The defensive scheme is horrible. I'm not confident this can be turned around quickly. Hasslet's job is on the line.
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:31 PM   #195
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I said:
"Haslett is responsible for the defense Now,but it was Shanahans hare brained ideal to hire Haslett and blow up our 4-3 defense that was never suited to run the 3-4 and weve pretty much sucked since then,so you could kinda say its all Shanahans fault"

You replied:
"Nobody forced Haslett to take the job."

How else am I supposed to interpret that?
Thats like a daycare hiring a child molester than when something bad happens saying well nobody forced the child molester to take the job.

As far as teams switching to the 3-4 every year,so what,thats got nothing to do with the situation as it was back then
I know what we said, but you missed my point, which is the 3-4 isn't an excuse, and if Haslett didn't want to run it he wouldn't have taken the job. We have an entirely different team from back then. 4-3 or 3-4 doesn't matter when you're not tackling and not playing sound defense.

Haslett shouldn't be let off the hook just because Shanahan wanted a 3-4 here.
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