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Old 09-23-2013, 12:56 PM   #346
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Nope that fumble is 100% on him. really stupid play by rg3.
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:01 PM   #347
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Nope that fumble is 100% on him. really stupid play by rg3.
I have to agree with you on that. No reason why Griffin couldn't have just slid feet first. Even if he lost the football, he would have been ruled down.
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:02 PM   #348
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Got an email couple hours ago from someone at work so probably radio this morning?

Yeah RG3 looked alot better weeks 16 and 17. I think the knee brace is really really bothering him.


So Tripp you get rid of Kyle? Thats a little much. I actually look to bring back Fred Davis into the game plan and i'd go under center with RG3 and put Young back there with Alfmo more. Id use Helu much more in the running and passing game. Id think about putting Helu and Alf in the back field together and motion Helu out wide some. Less WR screens, more RB screens.
Chris Russell tweeted saying that Garcon said RG3 is not fully healthy and last years RG3 was a lot different than this years RG3.
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Got an email couple hours ago from someone at work so probably radio this morning?

Yeah RG3 looked alot better weeks 16 and 17. I think the knee brace is really really bothering him.


So Tripp you get rid of Kyle? Thats a little much. I actually look to bring back Fred Davis into the game plan and i'd go under center with RG3 and put Young back there with Alfmo more. Id use Helu much more in the running and passing game. Id think about putting Helu and Alf in the back field together and motion Helu out wide some. Less WR screens, more RB screens.
To be honest, I'm just surprised that some event hasn't come up yet that has moved one or both Shanahan's on from the organization. I've never thought it would be a firing, but in the business world, they call it "reorganization!" or "new opportunity!"

Mike's the highest paid/year guy in the entire org after Garcon. No other player is making 7 mil/year. And because it's fully guaranteed, he's the guy I stick with the mess he created and tell him to clean it up. But unlike the Zorn fiasco, I want him to actually have the resources to make a real difference on the field this year. If he needs to go get a player like Josh Gordon, then he should be able to go get a player like Josh Gordon.

Basically, the solution is you take a sledgehammer to the team's power structure, and hope that someone already in the building can find the ingenuity to bring the team back from the abyss. If it works, great, you can rebuild the staff in the offseason under Lord Shanahan and remove all the interim tags. If it doesn't work, then you know you need new leadership at the top.

And with Griffin under contract, it's the most single lucrative job in the NFL. Bruce Allen will get all the best candidates to interview, should it come to that.
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:11 PM   #350
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Chris Russell tweeted saying that Garcon said RG3 is not fully healthy and last years RG3 was a lot different than this years RG3.
I don't think any of us needed garçon or a reporter tell us that, but the fact a player in the locker room is saying it publicly could become a problem the team doesn't need.
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We are still a middle of the road team, and will end that way at the end of the season. We didn't exactly make huge improvements to our defense because of the cap issues. We are still haunted by the Snyder Era, and we have a questionable Defensive Cord.

I will say, Barnett looked really good yesterday in the second half. Fletcher was played well on the earlier downs, but I wouldn't be surprised if Barnett was on the field more then Fletcher.
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I don't think any of us needed garçon or a reporter tell us that, but the fact a player in the locker room is saying it publicly could become a problem the team doesn't need.
I read it on WaPo, it sounds like it was an interview question. I agree, I don't think it comes as a surprise to anyone at this juncture that Robert is not the same.
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To be honest, I'm just surprised that some event hasn't come up yet that has moved one or both Shanahan's on from the organization. I've never thought it would be a firing, but in the business world, they call it "reorganization!" or "new opportunity!"

Mike's the highest paid/year guy in the entire org after Garcon. No other player is making 7 mil/year. And because it's fully guaranteed, he's the guy I stick with the mess he created and tell him to clean it up. But unlike the Zorn fiasco, I want him to actually have the resources to make a real difference on the field this year. If he needs to go get a player like Josh Gordon, then he should be able to go get a player like Josh Gordon.

Basically, the solution is you take a sledgehammer to the team's power structure, and hope that someone already in the building can find the ingenuity to bring the team back from the abyss. If it works, great, you can rebuild the staff in the offseason under Lord Shanahan and remove all the interim tags. If it doesn't work, then you know you need new leadership at the top.

And with Griffin under contract, it's the most single lucrative job in the NFL. Bruce Allen will get all the best candidates to interview, should it come to that.
You do Cousins for Josh Gordon? id strongly consider it.
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We are still a middle of the road team, and will end that way at the end of the season. We didn't exactly make huge improvements to our defense because of the cap issues. We are still haunted by the Snyder Era, and we have a questionable Defensive Cord.

I will say, Barnett looked really good yesterday in the second half. Fletcher was played well on the earlier downs, but I wouldn't be surprised if Barnett was on the field more then Fletcher.
Your saying that as if he has sold the team and we are recovering.
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You do Cousins for Josh Gordon? id strongly consider it.
In a heartbeat. It's Lombardi though, so I'd ask him to throw in a second rounder.
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Nope that fumble is 100% on him. really stupid play by rg3.
He was sliding forward trying to make a play. Not gonna kill him for that. The ground caused the fumble. It should be our ball. That's just a terrible rule. Now the INT? That was a stupid play and all on RG3.
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:39 PM   #357
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Something has to be shaken up on defense. 0-3 and this whole team is virtually healthy. Has and Kyle need to change things up or we need to change from them.

On to Oakland and to accomplish the impossible task of being 10-6 to make our only chance of getting to the playoffs by winning the division.
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:40 PM   #358
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People keep mentioning the cap as an excuse. Who's to say that the player/players we bring in here can perform? We have free agents right now that aren't performing. How's Cofield and Bowen performing? What about Josh Wilson? I really hope we add a couple pieces but I really don't want to see the 2000 Redskins ever again. Oh.. how's Mike Wallace working out for Miami? Or Mario Williams for Buffalo? If any fan base should know that free agency is not the way to improve a team it's us.
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:52 PM   #359
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People keep mentioning the cap as an excuse. Who's to say that the player/players we bring in here can perform? We have free agents right now that aren't performing. How's Cofield and Bowen performing? What about Josh Wilson? I really hope we add a couple pieces but I really don't want to see the 2000 Redskins ever again. Oh.. how's Mike Wallace working out for Miami? Or Mario Williams for Buffalo? If any fan base should know that free agency is not the way to improve a team it's us.
Bowen and Cofoeld are solid, now if you want to talk about the back end or some other pieces like the insane amount of money Morgan is making I'll bite but Bowen and Cofield aren't going to get much play from me.

I am surprised at the way they have been using Rak and his problems making plays at the line.

Will be interesting to watch how much playing time Jackson gets once he comes back. There should be a good rotation of Jackson and Rak depending on the situation.
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Something has to be shaken up on defense. 0-3 and this whole team is virtually healthy. Has and Kyle need to change things up or we need to change from them.

On to Oakland and to accomplish the impossible task of being 10-6 to make our only chance of getting to the playoffs by winning the division.
I have to disagree with that -- we have lost Keenan Robinson (Fletcher's heir apparent), Phillip Thomas (safety depth), Richard Crawford (expected to be our returner and in the CB mix), and Adam Carriker (arguably our best or second best DL) to injury. All players on D expected to contribute, some significantly, and D is where we are struggling the most right now. On a team that has been cash-strapped because of the cap hit and otherwise mis-managed until relatively recently that consequently has little depth, these injuries loom pretty large.
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