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Old 09-24-2013, 07:46 AM   #451
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I can't understand why we have inexplicably abandoned the read option. Is it so much to do with Griffin being on a bad leg, or is it just two different philosophies between Mike and Kyle? I would hope they would go back to what made them successful last season.

We might be 0-4 coming out of the bye and at that point, i think it would be good to fire Haslett. The defense cannot get any worse, as others have pointed out...
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Old 09-24-2013, 08:00 AM   #452
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And has no idea how to build an offense, thus hurting our marquee player.
I think he was mentioned originally as a replacement to haz not to Shanny though
Edit: just saw goats question as to him being hc. Most of the talk was him being a dc though- which i am all for. As for a hc i agree with you, although depending on who would be his oc it might work?
Edit: this is all just conjecture based on the possibility of us finishing3-13 or somethinglike that. Im not calling for in season change
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:52 AM   #453
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Tell your boy to stop by. Smart dude with plenty of intelligent insight beyond just inside info
He really does. I love the way he breaks down All 22 film. I tend to value that more than I do his inside intel, which I love.
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Lmao! Rebuilding! Holy crap rebuilding, what year is Shanahan in 4, 5 helliv lost count rebuilding! !! Sweet mother of pearl

I completely agree with you.

There's nothing to REBUILD...we've been building and 3 weeks does not make a whole season. To start "rebuilding" would be tearing down a VERY solid team. You don't blow things up because of a short-term losing streak. Did we hold a fire sale and clean out the coaching staff when we were 3-6 last season?

This team is NOT this bad. We're in a tough situation transitioning Griffin back into games but the defense is the real problem. On paper we're talented and deep, so maybe Haslett is the culprit or replacing him might motivate the D, but the players we've put together are not the problem, it's their execution for some unknown reason.
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He really does. I love the way he breaks down All 22 film. I tend to value that more than I do his inside intel, which I love.
I strictly follow him for his film, his predictions and intel--not so much.
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I completely agree with you.

There's nothing to REBUILD...we've been building and 3 weeks does not make a whole season. To start "rebuilding" would be tearing down a VERY solid team. You don't blow things up because of a short-term losing streak. Did we hold a fire sale and clean out the coaching staff when we were 3-6 last season?

This team is NOT this bad. We're in a tough situation transitioning Griffin back into games but the defense is the real problem. On paper we're talented and deep, so maybe Haslett is the culprit or replacing him might motivate the D, but the players we've put together are not the problem, it's their execution for some unknown reason.
Our secondary is absolutely a personell problem, and is far from talented and deep. A keg of the strongest kool aid in the world would not make that any different.
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I strictly follow him for his film, his predictions and intel--not so much.
What's wrong with his intel?
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Old 09-24-2013, 11:55 AM   #458
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Perry Riley AMA tomorrow at 4:15pm.

Wonder if he'll answer anything real about that shitty defense.
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21-30.

It's hard to remember sometimes that we're being led by geniuses.
Coming off a NFC Championship. Its week 3.. I understand the defense disputes but I dont see the Steelers calling for Tomlins head

A lot of you still suffer from Snyderidious.
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I can't understand why we have inexplicably abandoned the read option. Is it so much to do with Griffin being on a bad leg, or is it just two different philosophies between Mike and Kyle? I would hope they would go back to what made them successful last season.

We might be 0-4 coming out of the bye and at that point, i think it would be good to fire Haslett. The defense cannot get any worse, as others have pointed out...
Defenses have adjusted, we don't want to expose Griffin too much, he's still not 100%, situations have dictated things (playing from behind), etc.

That said we ran it plenty last week.
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IMO Until Gryphon gets fully back in the groove and can beat folks with both legs and arm, defenses will keep stacking the LOS to stop Morris. In such situations the read option becomes just a play action pass.

One of these weeks a defense is going to stack the LOS, only to find that RGIII is back in the groove. On that day RGIII will have a monster game.
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I can't understand why we have inexplicably abandoned the read option. Is it so much to do with Griffin being on a bad leg, or is it just two different philosophies between Mike and Kyle? I would hope they would go back to what made them successful last season.

We might be 0-4 coming out of the bye and at that point, i think it would be good to fire Haslett. The defense cannot get any worse, as others have pointed out...
We haven't abandoned it. We ran it about 6-7 times which is about average for us. It's just not as successful because defense don't care if Robert runs, and when he does he is a lot slower.
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Our secondary is absolutely a personell problem, and is far from talented and deep. A keg of the strongest kool aid in the world would not make that any different.
Nor would switching DCs in the middle of the season.
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IMO Until Gryphon gets fully back in the groove and can beat folks with both legs and arm, defenses will keep stacking the LOS to stop Morris. In such situations the read option becomes just a play action pass.

One of these weeks a defense is going to stack the LOS, only to find that RGIII is back in the groove. On that day RGIII will have a monster game.
Alf has had some pretty decent games the last two games, so if the defenses are stacking the LOS, it's not working.

Just makes me realize how special of a player Alfred Morris is. Glad he's on our team!
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We haven't abandoned it. We ran it about 6-7 times which is about average for us. It's just not as successful because defense don't care if Robert runs, and when he does he is a lot slower.
That 21 yard scramble was pretty impressive though. I think the issue is that Robert's initial "take off" is slow, but once he gets into second gear, he's just as deadly with his legs as he was last year. In retrospect, I'm thinking that regardless of III's health, it was/is the plan of the Shannys to reduce the amount of read option this year, because they want Griffin to continue developing as a true NFL passing quarterback. Eventually, I see this paying off for Griffin down the road. Griffin is not always going to be a dangerous runner, so he's going to have to develop his drop back passing skills and improve on those mechanics.
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