Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

Redskins Locker Room


Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-30-2013, 08:49 PM   #136
You did WHAT?!?
 
EARTHQUAKE2689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna.
Age: 25
Posts: 12,062
Re: We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chico23231 View Post
Did you get a chance to see what he did on the vs a good team and better defense?They were down 17 in the second half. He didnt have a great day throwing the ball but ran for almost 80 yards and led them to a win in overtime. Folks sometimes the stats don't tell the full story.

Wilson deserves the press, he's getting it done. And honest to god he's throwing the ball to less talent than us
Matt Schaub had a lot to do with that game even getting into overtime. Seattle's defense and Matt Schaub won that game more than Wilson did. Wilson is a great QB and I expect him to be a star in the NFL, but he doesnt have the upside Griffin does and has a much better defense. Give a 100% Griffin that D or one close to it and we are 4-0 as well. Like Matty said he is on pace for 4,800 yards.
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0

This is why you need Mentos. To justify your questionable problem solving skills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7geP5ev0VI

Awesome isn't it.
EARTHQUAKE2689 is offline  

Advertisements
Old 09-30-2013, 09:06 PM   #137
Playmaker
 
artmonkforhallofamein07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Charleston , SC
Posts: 4,685
Re: We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

Yep, put the Seattle d on the Skins and we are Super Bowl favorites.
__________________
Robert Griffin III welcome to the Washington Redskins!

Year 1 - NFC EAST Champions at 10-6

Year 2 - 3-10... Benched 14 weeks to late.....

Year 3 - Pure Awesomeness!!

http://site.fandangoracinginc.com/
artmonkforhallofamein07 is offline  
Old 09-30-2013, 09:39 PM   #138
The Starter
 
Chief X_Phackter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Lakewood, CO
Posts: 1,069
Re: We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

Quote:
Originally Posted by los panda View Post
oh yeah, and hats off to amerson.

i think it was ronde barber who made the comment on how amerson hadn't played well in the first 3 games; i disagree. i think he's played exceptionally well, sure he's been beat a time or two - but he has impressed me.

Ronde Barber has to be one of the worst commentators there is. He is hard to listen to. And Stockton, couldn't even say Orakpo...they make a great team...
Chief X_Phackter is offline  
Old 09-30-2013, 09:51 PM   #139
The Starter
 
Chief X_Phackter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Lakewood, CO
Posts: 1,069
Re: We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk View Post
For all the crabbin' about RG3 he's on pace for 4800 yds and 24 TDs. Just sayin'.

Those numbers are nice. Too bad it is because of the huge deficits he has been trying to overcome. He has been good though considering the injury and his limited NFL experience. He will only get better as the year progresses, along with the rest of the offense.

Now about that D....
Chief X_Phackter is offline  
Old 09-30-2013, 10:17 PM   #140
Playmaker
 
mlmdub130's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Woodbridge, VA
Age: 31
Posts: 3,189
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk View Post
For all the crabbin' about RG3 he's on pace for 4800 yds and 24 TDs. Just sayin'.
Does that really matter if we lose while doing so? A lot of those numbers are from the Eagles and GB games. And most of his numbers are still coming in the second half. I'm still not sure what the hell is going on and I'm not gonna say its all RG's fault, but he is the out lying factor at this point. Almost every other position on this team is the same as it was last year. This team, and no team for that matter is really worth a s w/o a dynamic qb. And last year we had one, right now we don't.

That said they bye couldn't come at a better time. Annnnnnd if the Cowboys lose to the Broncos... and NYG can win at home against the Eagles... and then if we beat the Cowboys...we'd be tied for the lead in the division. Just sayin'.
__________________
"I don't think anybody should have regrets, especially me, ... You don't regret what you do in your life. If you do it, you do it for a reason."

ST21
mlmdub130 is offline  
Old 09-30-2013, 10:19 PM   #141
JUST LIVIN
 
htownskinfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: houston,tx
Age: 52
Posts: 3,430
Re: We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsfaninok View Post
Hey I mean R.Wilson is light years better than RG3 right??? I mean he's a pure pocket passer right?? O yeah he's actually had a BAD season outside of the home game VS JAX. Nobody is calling him out though, or Kaepernick who has also had a very avg year
When did anybody say he was light yrs ahead of Rg3 or he was a pure pocket passer?
__________________
Ho
Lee
Chit
htownskinfan is offline  
Old 09-30-2013, 10:25 PM   #142
Quietly Dominating the East
 
Hog1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Naples, Florida
Posts: 9,064
Re: We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk View Post
For all the crabbin' about RG3 he's on pace for 4800 yds and 24 TDs. Just sayin'.
Who gives a damn?
Pissant Dan Marino crap.......
When he hits Peyton's stride.....THEN he'll have something.
__________________
Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios
thankyou Joe.......
ďItís all the political correct idiots in America, thatís all it is. Itís got nothing to do with anything else.
-Mike Ditka
Hog1 is offline  
Old 09-30-2013, 10:27 PM   #143
JUST LIVIN
 
htownskinfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: houston,tx
Age: 52
Posts: 3,430
Re: We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

Quote:
Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689 View Post
Matt Schaub had a lot to do with that game even getting into overtime. Seattle's defense and Matt Schaub won that game more than Wilson did. Wilson is a great QB and I expect him to be a star in the NFL, but he doesnt have the upside Griffin does and has a much better defense. Give a 100% Griffin that D or one close to it and we are 4-0 as well. Like Matty said he is on pace for 4,800 yards.
Schaub certainly helped,no doubt about that.BUT when Seattle needed it Wilson took them on a 98 yard drive with a couple of great passes,1 td nullified by penalty,and some great runs to get them in the endzone.If you didnt watch the game then you dont know how well Wilson played.I watched houdston game and skins game.
__________________
Ho
Lee
Chit
htownskinfan is offline  
Old 09-30-2013, 10:35 PM   #144
Impact Rookie
 
WillH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 837
Re: We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

I have not seen this mentioned (it may have been though), and I am not familiar with the inner workings of an OL, but it seems like the Skins OL has been fairly dominant in the running game for several years (off and on) and very awful at pass protection. Also, the current line has been built around zone blocking scheme in the running game, but what about pass protection? In some ways I could see where the strengths needed for pass pro are not inherently found in zone blockers. In pass pro you have to stick together and stand your ground, while in zone blocking you are more mobile, leverage blocks through the flow of the play, and adjust to the D (kinda talking outa my a**). Basically I'm asking, are our O lineman simply bad in pass pro, and is that partially due to the focus on zone blocking?

Also, since zone blocking requires more mobility and OL movement in general, is it possible that without the read option, when they break off the snap, before they even slip into pass pro, that the lack of OL movement is telegraphing that it is a pass play?
WillH is offline  
Old 09-30-2013, 10:36 PM   #145
Living Legend
 
skinsfaninok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms)
Age: 27
Posts: 16,104
Dude Wilson did not play great Lol I watched the whole game. He's not that great I really don't know y so many people won't admit that
__________________
THUNDER UP

"if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

skinsfaninok is offline  
Old 09-30-2013, 10:41 PM   #146
Pro Bowl
 
SFREDSKIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pacifica, CA
Posts: 7,421
Re: We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsfaninok View Post
Dude Wilson did not play great Lol I watched the whole game. He's not that great I really don't know y so many people won't admit that
He might not be great or have the numbers, but is clutch and makes things happen. He has what is called intangibles.
__________________
Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs.

Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory.

Darrell Green- Best DB ever.


Purveyor of fine Filth
SFREDSKIN is offline  
Old 09-30-2013, 10:53 PM   #147
Playmaker
 
HailGreen28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,654
Re: We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

I think our being 1-3 isn't RG3's fault per se. We have a crappy defense, so-so special teams, and an average offense sans QB. It's just we're basically the same team as last season, only late last season RG3 carried the team, and this season so far he's not. That's the difference to me, it's not that RG3's killing the team, he's just not carrying it like last season.

RG3 was successful with the read-option and play-action. I understand him wanting to hone his skills as a traditional passer aka Brady/Manning. That's how he can have a long and successful career with the Skins. But I don't understand why we had to abandon the read-option and play-action to do so, those things were protecting him from the consequences of a mediocre pass protecting line.

I also don't understand why we had to tank the first quarter of the season to give RG3 playing time while recovering. Going off the Cleveland game last season, we could have won an extra game or two so far with Cousins. Remember we were NFCE champs, but only beat NYG by one game and came down to the last reg season game with DAL. I don't agree with sacrificing the team for any one individual.

RG3 needs to get back up to speed and in football shape? That's what practice and conditioning is for. Griffin did darn well with zero NFL experience his rookie season, he'll be fine. Playing him like we have, we're lucky not to be 0-4 and RG3 knocked out of this season, IMO.

Start Cousins till RG3 is 100%. I mean full mobility the knee brace is off 100%. It's better for RG3 and the Skins.

Last edited by HailGreen28; 09-30-2013 at 11:00 PM.
HailGreen28 is offline  
Old 09-30-2013, 11:12 PM   #148
Impact Rookie
 
WillH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 837
Re: We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

So I just read up a little bit on the Zone Blocking Scheme, and it confirmed my suspicion that ZB OL are smaller and quicker and therefore there is a trade off when it comes to pass pro, because they are much more likely to be pushed back into the QB. (I know this is nothing new, but bear with me) This is why we needed a mobile QB to counter balance the relatively small OL, that is why Elway did well, but he was certainly not the burner RG3 was/will be again, but Elway was ALSO known for making quick reads and getting the ball out of his hands.

So here we are now, RG3 is not so mobile, uncomfortable in his healing body, not experienced enough to make reads quickly, and behind a ZB OL. This has resulted in RG3 hurrying himself and trying to force plays. So should we not expect poor decision making, bad accuracy, telegraphing passes with his eyes, and throw aways? I think it was unrealistic for us to expect RG3 to come in and completely change his style of play and succeed immediately. For all intents and purposes he is a rookie this year, and has pretty good numbers considering.

I see people blaming our woes on lack of talent at skill positions or bad play calling, but I think the problem is RG3, right now he does not fit the scheme, given time though, I have no doubts that he can effectively run this offense even without his jets. The good news is all the problems he is having this year are the same problems most young QBs face, and the skills he is lacking are the kind that can be learned.

Last edited by WillH; 09-30-2013 at 11:21 PM.
WillH is offline  
Old 09-30-2013, 11:17 PM   #149
Living Legend
 
skinsfaninok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms)
Age: 27
Posts: 16,104
Quote:
Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN View Post
He might not be great or have the numbers, but is clutch and makes things happen. He has what is called intangibles.
Yeah but that won't last long in the NFL, u have to be special to be a franchise QB, he's a great character guy and I really like him don't get me wrong but IMO he just doesn't have that elite ability and passing that u have to have. Hell none of these young guns should be considered great yet that gets on my nerves. Even Griffin
__________________
THUNDER UP

"if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

skinsfaninok is offline  
Old 09-30-2013, 11:19 PM   #150
Impact Rookie
 
WillH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 837
Re: We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

Quote:
Originally Posted by HailGreen28 View Post
I understand him wanting to hone his skills as a traditional passer aka Brady/Manning. That's how he can have a long and successful career with the Skins.
I agree with your sentiment here, but I don't think Brady and Manning are accurate yard sticks. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure these guys had very large OL in front of them, while the Shaniplan calls for smaller mobile lineman that can be beat more easily in pass pro. I wonder though, in a pass heavy league is it smart to build your line around a running scheme while sacrificing good pass pro?
WillH is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.29665 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25