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Old 09-30-2013, 09:46 AM   #46
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Re: We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

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If Dallas loses to Denver next week, our next game is for first place, as strange as that sounds. Huzzah!
There's no "if" there. Dallas has zero chance.


We beat Dallas in 2 weeks, we're on top of the division! (at 2-3...what!?)


And you people threw in the towel already! Only up from here. Defensive reinforcements coming, Griffin is going to come out looking much different in Week 6.
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There's no "if" there. Dallas has zero chance.


We beat Dallas in 2 weeks, we're on top of the division! (at 2-3...what!?)


And you people threw in the towel already! Only up from here. Defensive reinforcements coming, Griffin is going to come out looking much different in Week 6.
Eagles may beat the Giants to be there as well. But a tie at the top of the Division would be sweet considering the first 3 weeks of the season. Hopefully, RG3 can get right and the 2 weeks of preparation for Dallas give the Skins a big advantage.
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I dont see any misunderstanding, his numbers speak for themselves - overall very average and horribly poor in the first half of games. He is still a shell of himself.

These players he doesnt have confidence are the exact same ones he had last year...whats changed? Actually Garcon is more healthy. Did everyone get worse in year? If he lost confidence in anybody its the coaching staff, cause Kyle hasnt been very good at all this year.
RGIII is still recovering. It's simply going to take more time until he is his old self, physically.

Also, he's learning how to play QB in the NFL. There is a lot of learning that can only happen in games, over time. When he makes a "rookie" mistake, it is an opportunity for him to learn from it.

When he is fully recovered from his injury and has gained more experience, I think RGIII will become a great QB.
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If we are going to replace Haslett, today is the day to do it. Do we replace Haslett or not?
Haslett can't go out there and make tackles. Fletcher needs to be sat down.
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Doubt it after the D had 7 sacks and only allowed 1 TD.
Plus they scored one for the 3rd time this year. No one should bitch about the defense today. However we weren't playing Denver. That's the worst offense we see all year.
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Let RGIII improve over the bye along with the Defense Oh and we get some people back after the bye dont we? Don't count us out yet
At this time....RG3= average NFL QB. He had Moss open for a TD and overthrew him, doesn't stay with the plays long enough, but on a few he really hung in there and made some nice throws, on others the line just broke down and he had to run for his life. Made a great play to Helu. Just watching it from the game, the entire offense just looks dysfunctional.
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Re: We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

griffin hasn't played lights out but neither has Wilson, Luck Or CK either.
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At this time....RG3= average NFL QB. He had Moss open for a TD and overthrew him, doesn't stay with the plays long enough, but on a few he really hung in there and made some nice throws, on others the line just broke down and he had to run for his life. Made a great play to Helu. Just watching it from the game, the entire offense just looks dysfunctional.
RGIII telegraphs his throws way too much by staring down his receivers. Defenders are reading his eyes and thereby get good jumps on the ball. Perhaps this is a result of the fact that RGIII has yet to have a normal NFL off-season to work on such things. But he won't be elite until he learns to use his eyes differently.
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Haslett can't go out there and make tackles. Fletcher needs to be sat down.
This is what I don't understand. You hear and see the defense scheming and making changes game in and game out so Haslett is obviously game planning. The defense is suspect at best I don't think a change in DC is going to change that. I am not a big fan of firing for firings sake, there has to be an upgrade that can be made. Now in the offseason after we get 18 million of cap space back, that is a different matter.
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RGIII is still recovering. It's simply going to take more time until he is his old self, physically.

Also, he's learning how to play QB in the NFL. There is a lot of learning that can only happen in games, over time. When he makes a "rookie" mistake, it is an opportunity for him to learn from it.

When he is fully recovered from his injury and has gained more experience, I think RGIII will become a great QB.
Along with coming off a very serious injury everyone seems to forget he's still only 23. I thought he was pretty solid yesterday.
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Re: We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

they turned the sack attack up to level 11.

griff is looking more like his healthy self each week.

if we improve the open field tackling; we're on our way.
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:19 AM   #57
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oh yeah, and hats off to amerson.

i think it was ronde barber who made the comment on how amerson hadn't played well in the first 3 games; i disagree. i think he's played exceptionally well, sure he's been beat a time or two - but he has impressed me.
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:30 AM   #58
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So we may have a great pass rush or people are passing on us at a higher rate thus giving more sack opportunities.
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Haslett still needs to be fired. We played a depleted raiders offense. Sure we looked good, but I'm still thinking of the Eagles, Packers and Lions putting up huge numbers on our defense. If we had played Oakland week 1 we'd all be in agreement he should be fired now. But because we have the taste of a win some fans are like " well..you know we did look good yesterday so maybe he should stay.."

No, you fire him. One good game doesn't make up for 3 bad defensive games. I don't care about the timing, it's the results I care about and we've had one good result and three bad results. Fire him now while we have 2 weeks to tweak and do whatever with the defense rather than midway through the season when you screw up more than just the defense but the teams whole mindset.
That's been the trouble with finger pointing. as soon as we have Haslett condemned, the defense has a stellar day and Kyle becomes inept. We shift focus to Kyle and Haslett reverts.
The team won against a more struggling team. Had we lost, I had my pitch fork and torches burning for weeks ready to storm the castle, but we didn't. If we lose to Dallas and or Chicago, we can pretty much pack in the season. However, if we don't, the division becomes less distant and they could set sights on getting there but it will have to make these games count.
If we get through Dallas and Chicago, we can take lumps in Denver, rebound with SD (section 221), Minn, Phil, and all of sudden these games have REAL value towards the division.
I see Denver, SF, KC, ATL as only being able to lose 3 of the 4 and the team has to fight its way through the division and elsewhere to finish 10-6.

At least for the next 2 weeks I have a glimmer of hope that hasn't been crushed.
The one thing this team is fairly well at is- knowing the path ahead and getting wins, when the Cowboys, Giants, and eagles are also known to string a bunch of losses and fail.
We just have to knock out some mighty teams and I hope with Jackson and Jenkins, Robert is getting healthy and ready to whoop some ass.
That's all I got for today- optimism
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:37 AM   #60
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Yeah, Coughlin may go the way of Shanahan in Denver or Reid in Philly, where they are undermined more by their personnel errors than they are by their coaching.

But don't two recent Super Bowl wins earn Coughlin a break?

How much of a break , to me his break was last year but to start at 0-4 and most likely to see at least 0-5 it is time to reevaluate . To not have an O line in this league is death ,someone has to pay Jerry Reese is also part of the blame but Gilbride and Fewell both have to go .
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