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Old 09-30-2013, 12:29 PM   #76
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Re: We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

I don't think we have a talent issue at all. Griffin is adjusting to becoming a drop back passer and it's going to take some time especially coming off an injury with no reps all offseason. Last year with the read option he was making pretty simple reads and had guys running wide open. The offense is in a bit of a transition.

The defense is still the bigger concern to me.
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Old 09-30-2013, 12:34 PM   #77
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I think its coaching and lack of it with Kyle. RG3 is coming off injury and I guess the O is in transition if thats what we are going to call it, but we gotta be better prepared to play in the first half. Kyle needs to have the offense ready to go.

We cant 3 and out, 3-4 times in the first half with our defense, its killing the team.

Our Oline isnt playing as well last year imo. They get stronger as the game goes on it seems, but we need earlier results from this unit.
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o no doubt Defense is still much worse
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Dallas is turd meat next week, and gints play the birds. No matter who wins that game we can be tied in the win column in the division if we beat dallas. Glad we won and the season is young. Didnt get to watch the game, but i hope Griff makes some huuuuge strides by the dallas game and that Almo is ready to go too.
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RGIII is still recovering. It's simply going to take more time until he is his old self, physically.

Also, he's learning how to play QB in the NFL. There is a lot of learning that can only happen in games, over time. When he makes a "rookie" mistake, it is an opportunity for him to learn from it.

When he is fully recovered from his injury and has gained more experience, I think RGIII will become a great QB.
Well RGIII says he is 100% so how long can we use that excuse. Personally I have come to the conclusion RGIII is just not a pocket QB. He likes to be moving and seems to throw the ball much better when he is moving even if he is just rolling out.
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Because honestly we don't have much talent on O, Morris and Griff and Garcon.. thats it
Completely disagree. We have better wr's, TE's and running backs than New England put on the field last night.
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Well RGIII says he is 100% so how long can we use that excuse. Personally I have come to the conclusion RGIII is just not a pocket QB. He likes to be moving and seems to throw the ball much better when he is moving even if he is just rolling out.
You can use the "excuse" probably through the end of next month easily. He is a 2nd year qb who didn't have the benefit of an offseason and who is used to getting by on his exceptional speed, and now is finding limits in that. Not that he can't be a pocket passer. I have seen several drop back passes of his that were perfect, but frankly our line is not designed for a drop back pass style, and he is still working out the kinks and rust (regardless of what he says) in his running. I think we have seen a bit of progression in his game every week, and after the bye, he will be past the 9 month mark, which is medically significant in the healing process.

I don't think it's fair to say he's not a pocket passer, but when he can move easily, the whole offense works better.
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^again we do not have Tom Brady though. U have to understand that Brady and Manning make anyone look great, they are ELITE QB's. Griffin is not yet
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RG3 needs a full off season to work on his craft. As we can see, he not only needed pre season, he needed OTA's and the mini camps. Time will tell if he can become a pocket guy, but I think we all know he has the work ethic and the drive. Time will tell, but in the meantime, I hold on to Kurt Cousins.
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o no doubt Defense is still much worse
The defense is bad, yet it keeps us in games. I dunno. It's like they can't decide if they want to be absolutely deadass horrible or if they want to be inconsistent but lucky.
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Well RGIII says he is 100% so how long can we use that excuse. Personally I have come to the conclusion RGIII is just not a pocket QB. He likes to be moving and seems to throw the ball much better when he is moving even if he is just rolling out.
Too early to say that. Steve Young was a running QB and he made the change to become a HOF QB. RG3 needs to work on it and he will.
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^I don't I trade him for a high 2nd or late 1st and build around RG3, He's not going anywhere guys and he has changed his style to not get injured.
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Re: We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

What happens next year when the brace is off, bananas.

2nd year QB, still learning, recovering from a bad injury. He is pretty good when you take that into account.

The offensive line doesn't look as good, when he is 10% slower, or whatever he is. The receivers didn't seperate well yesterday as a group. He missed some throws, made some bad throws. He is doing something Kaepernick doesn't, move through his receiver progresson. Years down the road, the injury may end up being a blessing in disguise. What if he had to deal with this 5 years from now.
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The defense is bad, yet it keeps us in games. I dunno. It's like they can't decide if they want to be absolutely deadass horrible or if they want to be inconsistent but lucky.
The debbie downer part of me wants to point out that the defense seems ok when the 1st string players (Bush, Pryor, McFadden) go down, but does anyone else think Pryor or McFadden all game makes that game go much differently.


I do think getting Jackson and Jenkins back will make a big difference. I just think the dline's tackling will be improved off the bye.
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Old 09-30-2013, 01:27 PM   #90
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Is Griffin reading through his progressions or not? I certainly don't know, and it seems like half the people that might know, say he is, and half say he isn't.
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