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Old 10-15-2013, 10:04 PM   #211
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If we lose out ( I hope we don't) Shanahan and crew should be canned (I would can him if we do not finish 8-8). Not sure who we should be in as a head coach but I would go to a 4-3 defense. People will say we don't have the personal but we are very close - Rak & Kerrigan DE's Colfield< Baker and Jenkins, Nield DT. Still have Bowen DE, Golston (could play both DE and DT). Jackson OLB 0 Riley, B Jenkins, (Fletcher retired) MLB. CB"S & Safites - need to be addressed.
That's all fine if they fire the coaches and bring in a new staff, but Rak hasn't played DE in the NFL. He was moved to LB when we played the 4-3, he isn't a very good pass rusher either way. Kerrigan is a good overall LB and wouldn't change that with moving him. I can see Rak leaving this offseason and take a Carlos or Laron one year deal to prove himself.
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:05 PM   #212
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Ken Wisenhunt should get another shot.
Agreed, but idk if he fits here.
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That's all fine if they fire the coaches and bring in a new staff, but Rak hasn't played DE in the NFL. He was moved to LB when we played the 4-3, he isn't a very good pass rusher either way. Kerrigan is a good overall LB and wouldn't change that with moving him. I can see Rak leaving this offseason and take a Carlos or Laron one year deal to prove himself.
IF Rak had some trade value might be worth trading him either picks or a db... MY point was 3-4 has not worked due to personal and/or coaching. Shanahan won't go back to a 4-3. I've never like the 3-4 but if we had a top 10 defense than I'd be okay with it...
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I'd be willing to bet Orakpo would thrive as a 4-3 DE regardless of how much time he has spent at OLB... Kerrigan also IMO .. both played there in college and i still think they have the talent...
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I'd be willing to bet Orakpo would thrive as a 4-3 DE regardless of how much time he has spent at OLB... Kerrigan also IMO .. both played there in college and i still think they have the talent...
Agreed. I think Rak improves as DE and Kerrigan at least as good as he's been, which is totally solid.
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Won't make much sense to let him walk. Plenty of cap space, LBs that can get you 10 sacks a year don't grow on trees.
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Word. Rak at DE and maybe rob Jackson at weak side LB could be pretty sweet.
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TheGoat posted about franchises being turned around completely within 3 years. I know that it's happened but I can't think of the team. I've said it on here many times, I once watched a very interesting show on the NFL network, about the NFL's most winning teams, and they all had nearly the same amount of time that it took to put the team together. They said between 5 and 7 years to where a team was consistent and in the playoffs every year.
Wow 5-7 yrs? I can't imagine any owner waiting that long to see results? At the same time there should be some noticable and consistent results during that span. Other than last years playoff berth (which is looking like an abberation) there hasn't been anything to make anyone think The Redskins are heading in the right direction.
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Wow 5-7 yrs? I can't imagine any owner waiting that long to see results? At the same time there should be some noticable and consistent results during that span. Other than last years playoff berth (which is looking like an abberation) there hasn't been anything to make anyone think The Redskins are heading in the right direction.
It was really fascinating. Someone on here may know what the name of it was. I watched it for the first time in 2011, and it replayed like 4-6 months ago.

The owners did stay the course, for the most part. They said 5-7 years, but consider that 5-7 years was the total amount of time spent to where the team was successful every year, playoffs, etc... In that span of years they started seeing improvement.

I agree with you though, it looks more like last year's playoff run was luck and and easy schedule over real improvement / talent.... It seems that we are regressing and in general just in a bad way....
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But what if RG3 is never what he used to be, and the fact that we completley abandoned the Zone Read that RG3 excelled at. They are trying to make him into something he may not be able to be.

Is it a situation like with Jason Campbell where you don't bench him no matter what, even if a healthy and maybe capable Kirk Cousins is rotting on the bench? Put cousins in when they are mathematically eliminated. If the team all of a sudden comes alive maybe you have found the problem and Shanahan has some hope for 2014...
Cousins is such an x factor in all of this. I hope we are not hurting his trade value by not playing him when RG-3 is struggling. I mean going back to the Seattle game when Griff could barely walk, and now this year. If other teams believe he hasnt earned our trust to step in when needed, than why would they trade for him?
I find myself becoming very very curious to see what KC could do with this team. At the same time i desperately want Griff to keep improving until he is fully back. He looked great running with the ball last week, but boy he threw some bad balls. I have one more week of hope in the tank to turn this season around, and if Griff struggles I want to see KC. I think Shanny could avoid the whole qb controversy drama that would normally rear its ugly head by just admitting that maybe RG-3 wasnt coming along fast enough, and we arent giving up on the season.


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Cousins is such an x factor in all of this. I hope we are not hurting his trade value by not playing him when RG-3 is struggling. I mean going back to the Seattle game when Griff could barely walk, and now this year. If other teams believe he hasnt earned our trust to step in when needed, than why would they trade for him?
I find myself becoming very very curious to see what KC could do with this team. At the same time i desperately want Griff to keep improving until he is fully back. He looked great running with the ball last week, but boy he threw some bad balls. I have one more week of hope in the tank to turn this season around, and if Griff struggles I want to see KC. I think Shanny could avoid the whole qb controversy drama that would normally rear its ugly head by just admitting that maybe RG-3 wasnt coming along fast enough, and we arent giving up on the season.


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If he admitted to anything that RG3 hasn't stated. It would just cause even more debate for the public and media. If you guys expect RG3 to come out and say "Oh, i'm not 100% so defenses should just expect me to give 75%" then that ludicrous.

KC could actually hurt is trade value by playing, and if you think he would escape the pressure that RG3 has been under easier then RG3 has.

Roberts hasn't been perfect by no means, but we know what his potential is. He's currently 23 games in to his NFL career at the age of 23. He's not Peyton Manning and never will be, but he could be something more for the Redskins.

I will never wrap my head around how easy it is for a fan base to dispose of someone so quickly.

Robert did everything he was asked and more to come back and play for a team he believed in week 1. He put his confidence in the coaching staff to allow him to play if he said he was ready. If Shanahan didn't play Robert week 1, then there would be even more "controversy" around the organization about something else.

Same people every year post the same things.. Then we win the NFC East they try to twist their conclusions.. Only to see us lose a few more games and bring back the same old shit.

Maybe some of you are just cheering for the wrong team?
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If he admitted to anything that RG3 hasn't stated. It would just cause even more debate for the public and media. If you guys expect RG3 to come out and say "Oh, i'm not 100% so defenses should just expect me to give 75%" then that ludicrous.

KC could actually hurt is trade value by playing, and if you think he would escape the pressure that RG3 has been under easier then RG3 has.

Roberts hasn't been perfect by no means, but we know what his potential is. He's currently 23 games in to his NFL career at the age of 23. He's not Peyton Manning and never will be, but he could be something more for the Redskins.

I will never wrap my head around how easy it is for a fan base to dispose of someone so quickly.

Robert did everything he was asked and more to come back and play for a team he believed in week 1. He put his confidence in the coaching staff to allow him to play if he said he was ready. If Shanahan didn't play Robert week 1, then there would be even more "controversy" around the organization about something else.

Same people every year post the same things.. Then we win the NFC East they try to twist their conclusions.. Only to see us lose a few more games and bring back the same old shit.

Maybe some of you are just cheering for the wrong team?
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If he admitted to anything that RG3 hasn't stated. It would just cause even more debate for the public and media. If you guys expect RG3 to come out and say "Oh, i'm not 100% so defenses should just expect me to give 75%" then that ludicrous.

KC could actually hurt is trade value by playing, and if you think he would escape the pressure that RG3 has been under easier then RG3 has.

Roberts hasn't been perfect by no means, but we know what his potential is. He's currently 23 games in to his NFL career at the age of 23. He's not Peyton Manning and never will be, but he could be something more for the Redskins.

I will never wrap my head around how easy it is for a fan base to dispose of someone so quickly.

Robert did everything he was asked and more to come back and play for a team he believed in week 1. He put his confidence in the coaching staff to allow him to play if he said he was ready. If Shanahan didn't play Robert week 1, then there would be even more "controversy" around the organization about something else.

Same people every year post the same things.. Then we win the NFC East they try to twist their conclusions.. Only to see us lose a few more games and bring back the same old shit.

Maybe some of you are just cheering for the wrong team?
Who the hell is disposing of anyone? RG-3 is 9 months removed from a major knee surgery. Im simply pointing out the fact that he may not be physically or mentally prepared to take the field. Im also pointing out the fact that we have a qb in KC that i believe can also play in this league, and if Griff isnt firing on all cylinders than lets see if Cousins can do better at this particular moment in time. I think i very clearly stated that Griff showed some major improvement last week with his legs and that i want badly to see him get back to where he was as a player. Im a Redskins fan and have been for 36 years. I dont really care who leads them to victory? The Redskins are bigger than any individual player currently on the roster or ever on any of our rosters.
You talk about people twisting their words, but you twisted mine into some rant about how i hate the redskins, and think griff is never going to be peyton manning so we should cut him???? Huh?
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