Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?

Hog1 · 10-30-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

Isn't Dungy on the name change bandwagon? It's hard to see someone coming here when they aren't supportive of an organization because of its' name.

Sorry Tony, you're a good dude but you'll have to mind your own...Bees wax.
When Dan calls soliciting my opinion, I'll have to vote No.......

The Goat · 10-30-2013, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm not crazy about replacing our "message hasn't been effective in a decade" coach with another coach who is going to have to struggle through the same thing.

A lot of the best coaching talent is in the college ranks right now, but I wouldn't mind bringing a coach back for a second tour as head coach as long as it's the right fit. No more than 4 seasons as a HC and recent employment (and success) with an NFL team are some simple qualifications to look for.

Shopping in the failure bin could be a wise move, as long as it's a relatively short track record of losing, and not a career-long epidemic.

Seems like the college HCs who go straight to pro HCs bust about half the time? But then you look at the NFC west.

Speaking of NFCW how do you evaluate Fisher so far?

I wish Mike would take initiative though. Replace Haslett with the best DC available even if he runs a 4-3. Replace Kyle with the best up and coming OC, including college coaches. Show the players you will choose team over nepotism an they might come around.

The Goat · 10-31-2013, 12:34 AM

On the other hand when you're the 2nd worst team in the worst division in pro football (5-14 against non division opponents) and you've had basically total control the last four years, it's hard to argue you deserve another year.

Mattyk · 10-31-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mooby

Isn't Dungy on the name change bandwagon? It's hard to see someone coming here when they aren't supportive of an organization because of its' name.

Well he is in the opinion business these days. Who knows how strongly he actually feels about it. Would it prevent him from even listening to an offer? Who knows.

The Goat · 10-31-2013, 11:28 PM

Dungy vs Jon Gruden?

Mattyk · 11-01-2013, 01:54 PM

Honestly I'd take Jay Gruden over Jon.

Highly doubtful Jon would even come back.

NC_Skins · 11-08-2013, 10:19 AM

At this point, I think at a bare minimum for Mike to keep his job is to fire Haslett, Slowik, and Burns at the end of the season. If I'm Snyder, I tell Mike either he makes those changes or he's out the door too. The defense hasn't gotten better, the special teams got worse, and Slowik continues to shit up any position he's allowed to coach. First it was the DBs, now it is the LBs. This is where I stand on this.

Truthfully, I think Kyle needs to go if him and Mike can't get their shit together on what should be the plan for our offense.

For the record, I think Mike should have replaced Haslett after last season regardless if we won the division or not.

Chico23231 · 11-08-2013, 10:29 AM

Honestly I find it hard to bitch about Kyle the last 2 games. Funny, RG3 played better the last 2 than all season would help that perception.

Slowick never gonna leave Shanny.

DirtBagZ · 11-08-2013, 10:30 AM

I'd like to see the team go in a different direction, I realize the Zorn fiasco still lingers, but I am against having a retread coach. The team needs a clean slate. I'd like to see the team hire a talented coordinator either an OC or DC and see what happens.

NC_Skins · 11-08-2013, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Honestly I find it hard to bitch about Kyle the last 2 games. Funny, RG3 played better the last 2 than all season would help that perception.

Slowick never gonna leave Shanny.

I included Kyle if he and his father can't get on the same page. I have no issues with Kyle for the most part.

Mattyk · 11-08-2013, 10:38 AM

At this point I'd still bring back Mike but with the caveat that he shakes up the staff and makes some changes.

skinsfaninok · 11-08-2013, 10:40 AM

I just don't see DS firing Mike he likes him too much, I would bet MS resigns before getting fired.

Mattyk · 11-08-2013, 10:43 AM

He wanted 5 years I say give it to him. Let him make some staff changes and have an offseason with a good amount of cap room to make some moves. If the team gets off to a good start next year sign him to an extension. If not he can walk at the end.

Paintrain · 11-08-2013, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

He wanted 5 years I say give it to him. Let him make some staff changes and have an offseason with a good amount of cap room to make some moves. If the team gets off to a good start next year sign him to an extension. If not he can walk at the end.

I'm inclined to agree but reluctantly. I'm pro MS but my support is barely holding on and it's more from a stability standpoint than anything else to be honest.

At this point however, I can't see how Haslett survives, nor Burns. Lots of people want Kyle out but I don't see that (unless he leaves) nor do I think that would make much difference in improving our fortunes in 2014.

I can see massive turnover on the defense with many starters (Fletcher, Wilson, Bowen, Merriweather) moving on and a whole new ST crew (PR, KR, P) outside of Forbath and the return of the LS. They need to upgrade the WR group (again) replacing Morgan, Moss and Robinson.

skinsguy · 11-08-2013, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtBagZ

I'd like to see the team go in a different direction, I realize the Zorn fiasco still lingers, but I am against having a retread coach. The team needs a clean slate. I'd like to see the team hire a talented coordinator either an OC or DC and see what happens.

I don't want to see this team blown up again. I don't think it needs to be blown up. Bring in a better defense coordinator and special teams coach, and this team is a consistent playoff team. Mike has done more for this team than what people realize.

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10-31-2013, 12:34 AM	#318
The Goat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC? On the other hand when you're the 2nd worst team in the worst division in pro football (5-14 against non division opponents) and you've had basically total control the last four years, it's hard to argue you deserve another year.

10-31-2013, 11:28 PM	#320
The Goat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC? Dungy vs Jon Gruden?

11-01-2013, 01:54 PM	#321
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 41 Posts: 78,837	Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC? Honestly I'd take Jay Gruden over Jon. Highly doubtful Jon would even come back. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-08-2013, 10:19 AM	#322
NC_Skins Franchise Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 9,933	Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC? At this point, I think at a bare minimum for Mike to keep his job is to fire Haslett, Slowik, and Burns at the end of the season. If I'm Snyder, I tell Mike either he makes those changes or he's out the door too. The defense hasn't gotten better, the special teams got worse, and Slowik continues to shit up any position he's allowed to coach. First it was the DBs, now it is the LBs. This is where I stand on this. Truthfully, I think Kyle needs to go if him and Mike can't get their shit together on what should be the plan for our offense. For the record, I think Mike should have replaced Haslett after last season regardless if we won the division or not. __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

11-08-2013, 10:29 AM	#323
Chico23231 MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 37 Posts: 10,344	Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC? Honestly I find it hard to bitch about Kyle the last 2 games. Funny, RG3 played better the last 2 than all season would help that perception. Slowick never gonna leave Shanny. __________________ Ready for the Offseason

11-08-2013, 10:30 AM	#324
DirtBagZ Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 281	Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC? I'd like to see the team go in a different direction, I realize the Zorn fiasco still lingers, but I am against having a retread coach. The team needs a clean slate. I'd like to see the team hire a talented coordinator either an OC or DC and see what happens.

11-08-2013, 10:38 AM	#326
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 41 Posts: 78,837	Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC? At this point I'd still bring back Mike but with the caveat that he shakes up the staff and makes some changes. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-08-2013, 10:40 AM	#327
skinsfaninok Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms) Age: 27 Posts: 15,931	Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC? I just don't see DS firing Mike he likes him too much, I would bet MS resigns before getting fired. __________________ THUNDER UP "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

11-08-2013, 10:43 AM	#328
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 41 Posts: 78,837	Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC? He wanted 5 years I say give it to him. Let him make some staff changes and have an offseason with a good amount of cap room to make some moves. If the team gets off to a good start next year sign him to an extension. If not he can walk at the end. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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