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Old 11-15-2013, 09:59 AM   #556
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good debates in this thread, as for QB goes I don't blink an eye even today for RG3. The dude is a true "FRANCHISE" QB and u can't pass that up. As for coaching..... I'm just about ready for a change, especially if we end up below .500
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It's a hindsight criticism. There were no inherent reasons it could not have worked. On the other hand, not even the most devoted Mike Shanahan skeptic could have predicted he would be this inept.

I think every hire is a risky hire, given that Dan Snyder has shown little aptitude to tell the difference between a good interview and a bad interview. Sumlin coaches the offense I would most like to see RG3 in.
Just saying those flavor of the month college offense genius coaches, its a risky option. How's that pistol offense doing this year? Yeah not so great.

The Shanny hire wasnt bad, about getting the house in order more than anything. Organization is in a much better place than it was before. Shanny has alot to do with that. Has it transfered to wins on the field, not exactly which is disappointing. Like I said before, i dont really care if he stays or goes. I just dont want a knee jerk hire which sets us back...and like you said before, this team is not that far off which I believe is true.
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You're too kind

LOL why is that?
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LOL why is that?
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haha have no idea smoot but I'll take it
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Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?

For those complaining about the offense:

Offense

Points: Avg 25.6 (9th)
Yards: Avg 410.4 (5th)
Pass Yards: 259.2 (10th)
Rush Yards: 151.2 (3rd)

Defense

Points: Avg 31.9 (31st)
Yards: Avg 388.6 (27th)
Pass Yards: 274.8 (26th)
Rush Yards: 113.8 (16th)

We have a 6th ranked offense and a 25th ranked defense.

So this is what I'm reading from you guys: RGIII is not a pro quarterback, the zone-blocking scheme doesn't work, Kyle Shanahan needs to be fired, the offensive line is horrible, the offense isn't scoring enough points.

The defense gives up 31.9 points per ball game - 31st in the league. The offense scores 25.6 points per ball game - 9th in the league.

So a 9th ranked scoring offense warrants being blown up while nobody talks about the 31st ranked defense giving up over 30 points a ball game? Amazing. SMH.

Instead of going with a new direction on defense (and special teams), bringing their rank up from 31st (in points allowed) to say, 16th (middle of the road) and maintaining a top 10 offense in scoring, there's no way this team improves in the win column? You're not willing to address the specific areas that need address, you'd rather hit the nuke button on the whole thing? I'm so glad you guys aren't GM's and coaches.
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I don't like the thought of a move like this. This is the same guy who had RG III operating without a playbook in college. He is quoted as saying as much. Stay in college this isn't your game here in the NFL.

Matty had the best point a few posts ago, everyone is looking at the wrong side of the ball.

Look to the D and Special Teams to be able to field a winner, not the offense.
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For those complaining about the offense:

Offense

Points: Avg 25.6 (9th)
Yards: Avg 410.4 (5th)
Pass Yards: 259.2 (10th)
Rush Yards: 151.2 (3rd)

Defense

Points: Avg 31.9 (31st)
Yards: Avg 388.6 (27th)
Pass Yards: 274.8 (26th)
Rush Yards: 113.8 (16th)

We have a 6th ranked offense and a 25th ranked defense.

So this is what I'm reading from you guys: RGIII is not a pro quarterback, the zone-blocking scheme doesn't work, Kyle Shanahan needs to be fired, the offensive line is horrible, the offense isn't scoring enough points.

The defense gives up 31.9 points per ball game - 31st in the league. The offense scores 25.6 points per ball game - 9th in the league.

So a 9th ranked scoring offense warrants being blown up while nobody talks about the 31st ranked defense giving up over 30 points a ball game? Amazing. SMH.

Instead of going with a new direction on defense (and special teams), bringing their rank up from 31st (in points allowed) to say, 16th (middle of the road) and maintaining a top 10 offense in scoring, there's no way this team improves in the win column? You're not willing to address the specific areas that need address, you'd rather hit the nuke button on the whole thing? I'm so glad you guys aren't GM's and coaches.
Well done. Good post.
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For those complaining about the offense:

Offense

Points: Avg 25.6 (9th)
Yards: Avg 410.4 (5th)
Pass Yards: 259.2 (10th)
Rush Yards: 151.2 (3rd)

Defense

Points: Avg 31.9 (31st)
Yards: Avg 388.6 (27th)
Pass Yards: 274.8 (26th)
Rush Yards: 113.8 (16th)

We have a 6th ranked offense and a 25th ranked defense.

So this is what I'm reading from you guys: RGIII is not a pro quarterback, the zone-blocking scheme doesn't work, Kyle Shanahan needs to be fired, the offensive line is horrible, the offense isn't scoring enough points.

The defense gives up 31.9 points per ball game - 31st in the league. The offense scores 25.6 points per ball game - 9th in the league.

So a 9th ranked scoring offense warrants being blown up while nobody talks about the 31st ranked defense giving up over 30 points a ball game? Amazing. SMH.

Instead of going with a new direction on defense (and special teams), bringing their rank up from 31st (in points allowed) to say, 16th (middle of the road) and maintaining a top 10 offense in scoring, there's no way this team improves in the win column? You're not willing to address the specific areas that need address, you'd rather hit the nuke button on the whole thing? I'm so glad you guys aren't GM's and coaches.
Strong post.

Thread ender IMO.
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Offense def better than the defense. But it struggled immensly the first four games.

Foolish to just say the defense is to blame, especially dumb not to mention Special Teams at all. They are more a contributing factor than most think and especially key in several losses.
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Offense def better than the defense. But it struggled immensly the first four games.

Foolish to just say the defense is to blame, especially dumb not to mention Special Teams at all. They are more a contributing factor than most think and especially key in several losses.
I don't think anybody is letting the offense off the hook, but when you're getting outscored 25.6 - 31.9 and you factor in all the other numbers and rankings, it's easy to see where the majority of the blame lies. Yet most of our focus is on RG3 and Kyle. Dumb.
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Rg3 has been great the last few games
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I don't think anybody is letting the offense off the hook, but when you're getting outscored 25.6 - 31.9 and you factor in all the other numbers and rankings, it's easy to see where the majority of the blame lies. Yet most of our focus is on RG3 and Kyle. Dumb.
Yeah, if you want to pick apart and look for reasons of "why", i dont think you start with RG3 and Kyle. Its been improving, and thats what you look for down the stretch. If you want to point fingers on offense, I think you look to inconsistent play of the Oline outside of Silverback, lack of receiver play outside of Garcon. Those who want to point a finger at Garcon. Dumb.
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What I want to know is who the hell is letting the D or the ST off the hook?
I think it just comes down to both of those units are so far from fixable. Nothing can be done about them this year. However the offense is damn near fully functional. So to ask for it to be alittle better (enough to win the close games atleast) is a realistic option. That is not the case with D or ST. We know they suck.
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Plenty of QBs coming out of college aren't truly "pro ready".

Wasn't he rookie of the year? Just checking.
Well that's true, I just don't see teams giving away multiple high drafts picks for one that isn't "pro ready". Right about now, we need those picks badly. The way it's looking, one of those picks is going to be a top 5 pick.

RG3 deserved ROY, but it easily could have went to Luck or Wilson. He won it mainly because of his threat to run the ball, which was fine for last year. But this offense has to evolve, which I think it will. I just don't trust Kyle to let it evolve.
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