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Old 11-18-2013, 01:07 PM   #721
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From what I understand, Smith wants to remain a consultant bc he doesn't wanr to have to leave Cali.

Most likely a promotion from within
I see. So more than likely, we'll know something by the end of the season?
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:13 PM   #722
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I agree SS

My top 5 Candidates if they are interested in DC and we are in them..

1. Jon Gruden
2. Dungy
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1. Depending on the day of the week he is, but generally leaning toward no
2. He's not, and I don't want him anyway
3. No idea
4. He's waiting to see what happens with the Texans
5. Very unlikely
What's Lovie's connection/affinity for the Texans? I think you said before he's not coming here. Wondered ever since is the lack of interest mutual or one-sided (and which side)?

Generally speaking, I feel like we should command huge interest from every damn coach in the country. We have some impressive talent, an owner willing to spend amply to win, a great tradition.
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He gave us a division crown and that's good and also RG3 and ALF, I don't hate the guy it's just not a good fit anymore
Yeah, despite the assertions of some, I think he's done some good and the cupboard is more stocked at key positions (young long term starters at QB, RB, LT, TE, LB, CB) than it was when he got here in 2009.

His late career Denver history of defensive and special teams failure and his inability to build a cohesive, balanced roster as a GM may lead to the same result here.

End of the day, I'll thank him for solving the QB problem we perennially had, left some playmakers on both sides of the ball and wish him well. Stay bronze.
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:44 PM   #724
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Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?

Did anyone else see the graphic using the Eagles roster about what $18 million would have gotten us...

8 or 10 players including:
Jeremy Maclin
DeSean Jackson
Nick Foles
Conor Barwin
2 starting O-linemen
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I think we're really seeing the impact of that bogus cap penalty right now. All of the holes in our roster should be filled with a full cap this year, but I was shocked exactly how much talent $18 mill/year can buy.
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I agree SS

My top 5 Candidates if they are interested in DC and we are in them..

1. Jon Gruden
2. Dungy
3. Roman
4. Lovie Smith
5. Bowles




What's Lovie's connection/affinity for the Texans? I think you said before he's not coming here. Wondered ever since is the lack of interest mutual or one-sided (and which side)?

Generally speaking, I feel like we should command huge interest from every damn coach in the country. We have some impressive talent, an owner willing to spend amply to win, a great tradition.
I'm sorry, I missed where you said this team has talent? I was laughing so hard milk came out my nose. It might be easier to look at where we DO have talent but lets go with where we don't:

OL- They couldn't stop a leaky faucet. Please don't mention Trent... he needs a snickers cause he's not him self. Hasn't been for 2 yrs now.

WR- Moss is done. He catches maybe 1 ball a game. Morgan is trash. Hankerson shows flashes but not all the time. Garcon can't do everything himself. and Robinson is the new 50/50.

The offensive strong points? QB, FB, RB, and TE.

Lets move to defense:

CB's all need replacing except Amerson. SS/FS need to go and bring in all fresh young talent. As long as I know these new young guys will over time jell and build a report.... I'm in.

The strong points of this defense are: DL (but that's not saying much) and maybe....maybe LB. We need a new young leader with a young healthy motor.

This whole scheme on special teams needs to go. Seems like the 30 yrd line is the place to be. Punter can't kick high enough and far enough. We can't keep giving teams the ball on the 30 yrd line. and we start behind the 10.
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I'm sorry, I missed where you said this team has talent? I was laughing so hard milk came out my nose. It might be easier to look at where we DO have talent but lets go with where we don't:

OL- They couldn't stop a leaky faucet. Please don't mention Trent... he needs a snickers cause he's not him self. Hasn't been for 2 yrs now.

WR- Moss is done. He catches maybe 1 ball a game. Morgan is trash. Hankerson shows flashes but not all the time. Garcon can't do everything himself. and Robinson is the new 50/50.

The offensive strong points? QB, FB, RB, and TE.

Lets move to defense:

CB's all need replacing except Amerson. SS/FS need to go and bring in all fresh young talent. As long as I know these new young guys will over time jell and build a report.... I'm in.

The strong points of this defense are: DL (but that's not saying much) and maybe....maybe LB. We need a new young leader with a young healthy motor.

This whole scheme on special teams needs to go. Seems like the 30 yrd line is the place to be. Punter can't kick high enough and far enough. We can't keep giving teams the ball on the 30 yrd line. and we start behind the 10.
You are correct, this team doesnt have much talent at all. IMO, on O they have 3 playmakers, RG3, Garcon, Morris and that's not enough.
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You are correct, this team doesnt have much talent at all. IMO, on O they have 3 playmakers, RG3, Garcon, Morris and that's not enough.
I'd say Reed needs to be needs to be mentioned as well.
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Man, I still can't baffle myself on why they abandon the traditional offense every other week for the Read Option/Drop back.

We did one rollout off of PA and it resulted in a Touchdown.
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You are correct, this team doesnt have much talent at all. IMO, on O they have 3 playmakers, RG3, Garcon, Morris and that's not enough.
LOL, oh sarcasm. Awesome. Love it. Good stuff right there.

Seriously, I've been a Trent fan but he seems to be letting the defenseman by just about every 3rd or 4th play. Ok yeah he slowed the dude up but they in the end still got to RG3. Our Guards suck. period. Although I love Will Montgomery he doesn't seem the same this year either. I'm not sure if it's blocking scheme or maybe they all were told to lose weight to get faster but something is not working. Who do we have at RT? What young talent do we have to be our staple book end on that side? Uh... no one.

So in reality we have RG3, Morris, Helu, Royster, Thompson, Young, Paulson, Reed. <these are the only ones I'd keep not counting Practice Squad or IR.

Maybe it's the scheme. Maybe using some other scheme would make these same guys shine but right now RG3 is running for his life cause of the flood of defenders walking through the OL. You can't deny it cause even the announcers have mentioned it every game.
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Goat, Lovie Smith grew up just a couple of hours outside of Houston. He'd like to stay in Texas
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Man, I still can't baffle myself on why they abandon the traditional offense every other week for the Read Option/Drop back.

We did one rollout off of PA and it resulted in a Touchdown.

Yeah I was baffled all game. If you would have asked me ahead of time how I would beat the Eagles I would have said throw down the middle of the field to open slots. Force the defense to back off the line and defend the pass then start running the ball.

Instead.... the team kept trying to force the run. They didn't even go to the heavy pass, hurry up offense until 4th quarter and it was working.

My in game adjustment I kept yelling at my tv or radio about.... I would have started the hurry up offense in the second quarter, I would have rolled RG3 out more since it was blatantly obvious the Eagles were running through the center of our OL.

Their killing me with the "pitch" runs. If I remember correctly it only worked like once and it did go for a TD. Otherwise. Nada. Maybe it works once in a game for + yardage.

Our coaching staff did nothing until after the half and nothing until the 4th quarter. Maybe by design I don't know but waaaaay toooo late.
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Goat, Lovie Smith grew up just a couple of hours outside of Houston. He'd like to stay in Texas
Thank God. Pretty bad when a coach has to protect us from ourselves.
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Oh geez....you're still on the sleeping at the office bit? You do realize you're the one who actually mentioned sleeping at the office? Secondly, how do you know RP didn't spend long hours at Redskins Park? Oh...you don't know! Thirdly, you're comparing Joe Gibbs, the head coach, to Richie Petitbon, the defensive coordinator - you do realize that makes completely no sense? Fourthly...let's compare them both as head coaches. Ah yes....now you should start seeing my point.
I know he didn't sleep there....reliable sources! And when did I say he didn't put in long hours? I just said he didn't sleep at Redskin Park. Stop putting words in my mouth.

Also..when did I compare the two as head coaches?
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I'm sorry, I missed where you said this team has talent? I was laughing so hard milk came out my nose. It might be easier to look at where we DO have talent but lets go with where we don't:

OL- They couldn't stop a leaky faucet. Please don't mention Trent... he needs a snickers cause he's not him self. Hasn't been for 2 yrs now.

WR- Moss is done. He catches maybe 1 ball a game. Morgan is trash. Hankerson shows flashes but not all the time. Garcon can't do everything himself. and Robinson is the new 50/50.

The offensive strong points? QB, FB, RB, and TE.

Lets move to defense:

CB's all need replacing except Amerson. SS/FS need to go and bring in all fresh young talent. As long as I know these new young guys will over time jell and build a report.... I'm in.

The strong points of this defense are: DL (but that's not saying much) and maybe....maybe LB. We need a new young leader with a young healthy motor.

This whole scheme on special teams needs to go. Seems like the 30 yrd line is the place to be. Punter can't kick high enough and far enough. We can't keep giving teams the ball on the 30 yrd line. and we start behind the 10.

Agree with most except TW, he's an all pro and most people have said it during our games
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Yeah I was baffled all game. If you would have asked me ahead of time how I would beat the Eagles I would have said throw down the middle of the field to open slots. Force the defense to back off the line and defend the pass then start running the ball.

Instead.... the team kept trying to force the run. They didn't even go to the heavy pass, hurry up offense until 4th quarter and it was working.

My in game adjustment I kept yelling at my tv or radio about.... I would have started the hurry up offense in the second quarter, I would have rolled RG3 out more since it was blatantly obvious the Eagles were running through the center of our OL.

Their killing me with the "pitch" runs. If I remember correctly it only worked like once and it did go for a TD. Otherwise. Nada. Maybe it works once in a game for + yardage.

Our coaching staff did nothing until after the half and nothing until the 4th quarter. Maybe by design I don't know but waaaaay toooo late.
Yeah, we were down 24-0 and ran a dive play.. My thought was, well I'm glad we set this up all game.. We owned time of possession and yardage so I'm not sure why we didn't up the tempo. Seems like a flaw of this staff not to recognize when a change is needed quickly enough. Lynch was praising the play calling when we were down 17-0 for 'not abandoning the gameplan' which is like praising the flight attendants for finishing beverage service on a plane plummeting through 18,000 feet.

There are certain assumptions I had about this staff that have proven false time and time again. It took me a while (almost as long as it does for Haslett to adjust) but I've mentally pulled the plug on this regime.
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