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Old 11-18-2013, 01:14 PM   #736
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Mike doesn't even look or sound like his heart is in it anymore, I'm not saying he isn't working his ass off I'm js I don't think he loves coaching as much
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:16 PM   #737
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^ Good point
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I'm sure Shanahan and his assistants put in a ton of hours. I highly doubt they show up at 9am and are out by 5pm. I just find that really hard to believe. They're just not getting it done on gameday. But I will not doubt their work ethic.

Ritchie Petibone, while he was DC under Gibbs never slept in his office. Yet he was one of the best at his craft. To me it's quality time working, not the amount of hours you're at the facility.
Oh geez....you're still on the sleeping at the office bit? You do realize you're the one who actually mentioned sleeping at the office? Secondly, how do you know RP didn't spend long hours at Redskins Park? Oh...you don't know! Thirdly, you're comparing Joe Gibbs, the head coach, to Richie Petitbon, the defensive coordinator - you do realize that makes completely no sense? Fourthly...let's compare them both as head coaches. Ah yes....now you should start seeing my point.
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:24 PM   #739
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Eh, I'd say probably 35% chance he returns
So Smoot, you were mentioning the musical chairs that seems to be happening in the Front Office - do you not expect A.J. Smith to be considered as the general manager? Do you feel it's going to be someone completely different? Do you have your ideas who those candidates are for this job? Will it be more of a promotion within or an outsider deal?
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So Smoot, you were mentioning the musical chairs that seems to be happening in the Front Office - do you not expect A.J. Smith to be considered as the general manager? Do you feel it's going to be someone completely different? Do you have your ideas who those candidates are for this job? Will it be more of a promotion within or an outsider deal?
From what I understand, Smith wants to remain a consultant bc he doesn't wanr to have to leave Cali.

Most likely a promotion from within
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Mike doesn't even look or sound like his heart is in it anymore, I'm not saying he isn't working his ass off I'm js I don't think he loves coaching as much
I agree. Listening to that press conference yesterday, he just seemed like he was done. Sad really, I was hoping he'd get a chance to turn it around. Evidently, he's just not the right person for the job. I'm glad he brought us to a point of respectability, but it's time for a divorce.
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I agree. Listening to that press conference yesterday, he just seemed like he was done. Sad really, I was hoping he'd get a chance to turn it around. Evidently, he's just not the right person for the job. I'm glad he brought us to a point of respectability, but it's time for a divorce.

He gave us a division crown and that's good and also RG3 and ALF, I don't hate the guy it's just not a good fit anymore
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From what I understand, Smith wants to remain a consultant bc he doesn't wanr to have to leave Cali.

Most likely a promotion from within
I see. So more than likely, we'll know something by the end of the season?
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I agree SS

My top 5 Candidates if they are interested in DC and we are in them..

1. Jon Gruden
2. Dungy
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1. Depending on the day of the week he is, but generally leaning toward no
2. He's not, and I don't want him anyway
3. No idea
4. He's waiting to see what happens with the Texans
5. Very unlikely
What's Lovie's connection/affinity for the Texans? I think you said before he's not coming here. Wondered ever since is the lack of interest mutual or one-sided (and which side)?

Generally speaking, I feel like we should command huge interest from every damn coach in the country. We have some impressive talent, an owner willing to spend amply to win, a great tradition.
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He gave us a division crown and that's good and also RG3 and ALF, I don't hate the guy it's just not a good fit anymore
Yeah, despite the assertions of some, I think he's done some good and the cupboard is more stocked at key positions (young long term starters at QB, RB, LT, TE, LB, CB) than it was when he got here in 2009.

His late career Denver history of defensive and special teams failure and his inability to build a cohesive, balanced roster as a GM may lead to the same result here.

End of the day, I'll thank him for solving the QB problem we perennially had, left some playmakers on both sides of the ball and wish him well. Stay bronze.
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Did anyone else see the graphic using the Eagles roster about what $18 million would have gotten us...

8 or 10 players including:
Jeremy Maclin
DeSean Jackson
Nick Foles
Conor Barwin
2 starting O-linemen
etc.


I think we're really seeing the impact of that bogus cap penalty right now. All of the holes in our roster should be filled with a full cap this year, but I was shocked exactly how much talent $18 mill/year can buy.
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I agree SS

My top 5 Candidates if they are interested in DC and we are in them..

1. Jon Gruden
2. Dungy
3. Roman
4. Lovie Smith
5. Bowles




What's Lovie's connection/affinity for the Texans? I think you said before he's not coming here. Wondered ever since is the lack of interest mutual or one-sided (and which side)?

Generally speaking, I feel like we should command huge interest from every damn coach in the country. We have some impressive talent, an owner willing to spend amply to win, a great tradition.
I'm sorry, I missed where you said this team has talent? I was laughing so hard milk came out my nose. It might be easier to look at where we DO have talent but lets go with where we don't:

OL- They couldn't stop a leaky faucet. Please don't mention Trent... he needs a snickers cause he's not him self. Hasn't been for 2 yrs now.

WR- Moss is done. He catches maybe 1 ball a game. Morgan is trash. Hankerson shows flashes but not all the time. Garcon can't do everything himself. and Robinson is the new 50/50.

The offensive strong points? QB, FB, RB, and TE.

Lets move to defense:

CB's all need replacing except Amerson. SS/FS need to go and bring in all fresh young talent. As long as I know these new young guys will over time jell and build a report.... I'm in.

The strong points of this defense are: DL (but that's not saying much) and maybe....maybe LB. We need a new young leader with a young healthy motor.

This whole scheme on special teams needs to go. Seems like the 30 yrd line is the place to be. Punter can't kick high enough and far enough. We can't keep giving teams the ball on the 30 yrd line. and we start behind the 10.
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I'm sorry, I missed where you said this team has talent? I was laughing so hard milk came out my nose. It might be easier to look at where we DO have talent but lets go with where we don't:

OL- They couldn't stop a leaky faucet. Please don't mention Trent... he needs a snickers cause he's not him self. Hasn't been for 2 yrs now.

WR- Moss is done. He catches maybe 1 ball a game. Morgan is trash. Hankerson shows flashes but not all the time. Garcon can't do everything himself. and Robinson is the new 50/50.

The offensive strong points? QB, FB, RB, and TE.

Lets move to defense:

CB's all need replacing except Amerson. SS/FS need to go and bring in all fresh young talent. As long as I know these new young guys will over time jell and build a report.... I'm in.

The strong points of this defense are: DL (but that's not saying much) and maybe....maybe LB. We need a new young leader with a young healthy motor.

This whole scheme on special teams needs to go. Seems like the 30 yrd line is the place to be. Punter can't kick high enough and far enough. We can't keep giving teams the ball on the 30 yrd line. and we start behind the 10.
You are correct, this team doesnt have much talent at all. IMO, on O they have 3 playmakers, RG3, Garcon, Morris and that's not enough.
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You are correct, this team doesnt have much talent at all. IMO, on O they have 3 playmakers, RG3, Garcon, Morris and that's not enough.
I'd say Reed needs to be needs to be mentioned as well.
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Man, I still can't baffle myself on why they abandon the traditional offense every other week for the Read Option/Drop back.

We did one rollout off of PA and it resulted in a Touchdown.
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