Skins vs Bears postgame

MTK

The hit from Tillman looked worse than it actually was.

Yeah I agree overall he's probably taking less hits in the open field compared to last year.

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Lotus

Those who say that RGIII is not a pocket passer NOW are correct. He stares down receivers and never gets far through his reads.

But those who say that he can grow into the role are correct, too. If Randall Cunningham could grow up to be a pocket passer, definitely so can RGIII, who is light years ahead of Cunningham in intelligence/skills.

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MTK

HTTR24/7 has posted some good breakdowns in the past of RG3 going through his progressions. So it's not like he can't or never has done it.

The plays where he appears to be staring down his WR are mostly those quick slant one read type plays off play-action. I think teams have just gotten better at defending those on us, like Briggs yesterday jumping into the throwing lane at the last second.

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skinsfaninok

Rg3 will be fine and he's starting to scare Defenses like he did last yr. Teams just won't be able to handle our Offense with him running the ball, he's so dangerous back there and as we saw yesterday he made 2 great throws REED Fade and deep ball to AA. He's basically back

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Lotus

Yes, he kept running some. So will RGIII.

But in 1998 he led the Vikes to a new season record for points scored (breaking the record of the '83 Skins) and was primarily a pocket passer in doing so. Go back and watch tape of Cunningham throwing to Moss and Carter - he was primarily a pocket passer.

My point was not to tout Cunningham - my point was that anything he could do, RGIII could do better.

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Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250)
Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350)
Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444)
Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430)
We won more with Vinny

scowan

The Redskins better figure out their Special Teams before next week or Holliday will light them up. Peyton is going to be hard enough to deal with, we don't need Holliday scoring on a punt/KR as well.

BaltimoreSkins

Maybe this is the game plan to keep Manning off the field?

RFKRat

It's not just the special teams. The defense is still a joke. When Josh McCown of all people can come in and move the ball at will, you have problems. It's a sickening feeling that even with :45 left after the go-ahead TD, the Bears still had a chance to win the game.

I think some perspective is in order too. I know people hate realists but this is still a bad football team. The local media is drooling on about "progress" but really has there been much? Is the team, and Griffin "better" or are they taking advantage?

If Oakland has Pryor in the lineup it's not out of order to say that the Redskins probably don't win that game...Flynn was terrible but the game was still close. In Dallas, people point out "progress" even though it was a two-TD loss. Dallas was missing their RB and had a patchwork defensive line, including losing their Pro Bowl star Ware early in the game. Yet the media here and most fans ignore that and go on about how the offense is "back". Yet even Dallas's backups were able to pressure the Redskins and hold them to 16 points overall. That's progress?

Then yesterday. Don't even mention Cutler going down, cause McCown (an awful QB over the last few years) came in and torched the Redskins. But on defense the Bears were already injury-riddled..losing key members Helton and Jennings earlier in the year and were overall like 28th in the league. One of the announcers even jokingly said the Bears had some guys on the line who were meat-packers a couple weeks ago. Then they lost Briggs and Tillman etc for extended time. So yeah, the offense looked great against one of the worst and most injury-riddled defenses in the league.

That's a good gauge that the offense is "back"? The Redskins were at home, had all the advantages (that onside kick was not offsides) and still barely scraped out a win. This is still like a 6-10 team at best. Yeah it was a win but I can't see how anyone is really that optimistic about it.

MTK

It's all perspective I guess. People see what they want to see.

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scowan

RFKRat, everything you have written here is true, but it was also mentioned in one of the Washington Post blogs about how it seems like the Redskins have been "knocking out" key members of the other team almost every week. Yesterday it was Cutler. Before that it was McFadden, then Eddie Lacy, then Demarco Murray. Heck they even knocked out LeVeon Bell in the preseason and it took him around 6 weeks to come back. Fate, Fortune, who knows, but you can only play the guys facing you and all teams have injuries that make them less than full strength. Heck, the Skins were missing a 100% RGIII and a Jenkins, and a Rob Jackson the first 4 weeks. Wins are Wins and while I have every reason to expect the Skins to get crushed in Denver next week, stranger things have happened. The Colts are a good team but I didn't see them beating the Broncos last night and they did.

The Redskins are improving in some areas and not in others, but they were 3-6 at one point last year and after 9 games this year I will exect them to be better than that.

Chico23231

wins are tough to come by in this league, lets enjoy this one.

Im not understanding why people keep bringing up if Pryor woulda played we woulda loss. I f*cking forgot Pryor is on the same tier as Luck, untouchable apparently.

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MTK

You'd expect a guy on a one year prove it deal would be working a little harder on and off the field. He's got nobody but himself to blame at this point.

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12thMan

I think if we can get Rak in Peyton's face, we'll have a shot at beating the Broncos. I really feel he's the missing piece of this defense. We need that guy to be dominant.