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Old 10-23-2013, 07:25 PM   #121
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1. It's a theory. There have been other fans, media, and other various outlets with this theory. No one has proof, and no one will get that proof, because shanahan is no idiot that would say now, or ever in his NFL coaching tenure that he was trying to tank a season.

2. Have you seen the movie/play the producers? Think of Shanahan as the director and beck and grossman as Max and Leo. It backfired on shanahan and became a lot more successful than he thought. Just like the play the producers.

3. You have heard dumber statements on this site but you choose to go after me because I know how to push your buttons
"Theory" - a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.

That's the thing about theories, they kinda require proof if you want to present them as fact. Otherwise theories are basically just opinions and if there's no proof, they can't be presented as fact. Just because a lot of people share the opinion that Shanahan tanked that season, doesn't mean he actually did.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:03 PM   #122
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Re: Redskins vs Broncos Pre Game Thread

I don't see how we can beat Denver. Their offense is just too good, and I don't think Peyton Manning will lose two in a row. However, if our offense steps up and scores a bunch of points, our front 7 on defense hits Manning hard and manages to rattle him, and we win the turnover battle, we just might be able to pull it out. My prediction: Redskins-31, Broncos-44.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:34 PM   #123
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Amazingly enough, two losses in a row is not uncommon for Manning
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Our two wins have come against teams minus their starting QBs.

So if Manning were to get injured against us this Sunday, and we beat them with Brock Osweiler as their QB, we're a better team because we won against a team minus their best player? It's more like an asterisk win in my book.
I think you're looking at this wrong . . . This could be an effective strategy. Where's Greg Williams?
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:20 PM   #125
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Amazingly enough, two losses in a row is not uncommon for Manning
I agree with others that I think it's possible we pull out a win this week, but I have to say when the game clock was running out against Indy they showed Manning and where his brother would be sulking, the look I saw in Peyton's eyes was full of determination. Not that Peyton could singlehandedly beat us through sheer force of will, or could he?

I'm hoping RG3 can continue the torch passing that began last week, but I'm not overly confident in the team as a whole.
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:26 PM   #126
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in fairness we all have said tank for picks at some point or another
I havent.
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:53 PM   #127
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^Griffin was CLUTCH on that last drive and it seems as if some want to just put that on the bears D and not give RG3 his due... But if griffin threw an INT on that drive he'd be a loser
Funny thing is, I wasn't worried about us scoring when we needed to in the 4th qtr. It just seemed natural that we would. Amazing what difference a relatively healthy and running RG3 makes. Haven't felt that way watching a skins game since... 1st qtr of last season's playoff game.
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Whys there a page missing from this thread?
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:27 PM   #129
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Kinda off topic but, Is it just me, or does it seem to others that a lot of a Skins fans are teetering back and forth between : "Griffin needs to stay in the pocket and not get hurt" and "look how well we do when Griffin runs, that's what we're good at, we gotta stick to that game plan."

Personally, I would like him to develop the skills he needs to inside the pockets. As I've brought before, Zone blocking OL tend to be smaller and not as good at pass blocking, which worries me, but that is why Elway succeeded, not only because he was mobile, but also because he had a quick release. That is the big thing I'm waiting to see from RGIII! A consistent accurate quick release. Also, do you think he will ever call audibles, hot routes, etc. more at the line of scrimmage like Peyton? Have I heard the Shannys don't like that? Is there any truth to that? I just think that if he could develop those skills, than he could carve defenses up from the pocket and not get hit constantly and then he could take whatever yards he can get on the ground when the right situation presents itself and avoid risky plays. I'm blown away by his talent, but I have to say I will be disappointed if his skill set doesn't expand beyond relying on his threat as a runner to give himself time to pass.
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He has plenty of time to develop as a pocket passer. In the meantime it's silly to not take advantage of his ability to run.
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He has plenty of time to develop as a pocket passer. In the meantime it's silly to not take advantage of his ability to run.
Sure, and it's fun to watch too, but I guess I just mean, for the price we paid, I'm hoping for an all around great QB with running ability, and not after 5 years in the league.
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Sure, and it's fun to watch too, but I guess I just mean, for the price we paid, I'm hoping for an all around great QB with running ability, and not after 5 years in the league.
The offseason is the time to work on development. Unfortunately he missed out on that this year.
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The offseason is the time to work on development. Unfortunately he missed out on that this year.
That's true I guess, I mean I assume you have to experience it in a game though to fully realize a skill, but I suppose the techniques and mechanics start in training camp. I'm not complaining or anything, nor do I expect he should be much further along, I guess I feel the "plan" for RGIIi is somewhat cryptic, perhaps by design, but I just hope what we see now is not the long term plan.
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Amazingly enough, two losses in a row is not uncommon for Manning
Manning is getting ready to face the best pass rush to date with Orakpo, Cofield, and Kerrigan. I feel solid about Hall, Wilson and amazingly enough Amerson.
The Safety position.... ohh boy not good.
I do believe our only hope is to blitz the hell out of him, that would force them to keep the TE in and help block. However that still leaves three damn good receivers. The offense has to sustain long time killing drives or the Defense will ripped apart in my opinion, especially if they try and play zone.
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