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Old 10-28-2013, 04:30 PM   #256
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Re: Broncos vs Skins Post Game Thread

According to Cooley, Jordan Reed spent some time on the Jugs machine today catching......300 balls.....
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How did Reed not go sooner?? Dude is a stud
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:36 PM   #258
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Buccaneers, Eagles, Texans lead midseason disappointments - NFL.com

Redskins, Texans far short of expectations
When I think of how I viewed them coming into the season, the two most disappointing teams to me are the Houston Texans and Washington Redskins. I thought both could win their respective divisions, but at 2-5, both are far from where I thought they'd be. Both teams have been plagued by inconsistent performance at the quarterback position, though for different reasons.

Robert Griffin III was coming off a major injury, so it was hard to say how he was going to play early in the season. Through seven games, he's had just one outing (against Chicago in Week 7) in which he played at a level similar to last year's. As for Houston, Matt Schaub has had some fine moments, but he's also had some disastrous moments. It appears to me that Schaub -- who's been supplanted by backup Case Keenum for Week 9 -- has lost some of his confidence, and that can be a tough thing to regain.
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:38 PM   #259
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We need the rest of the WR corp to get it too.
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:45 PM   #260
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I'd def put Atlanta high on the disappointment list.
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Old 10-28-2013, 05:11 PM   #261
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If you read Garcon's take on ESPN, you learn two things: (a) he was wide open and, (b) the OC had correctly predicted earlier in the week that he would be wide open on certain plays.

This means that all the QB has to do is to take the OC's advice and we have big gainers.

Inexplicably, the QB did not do this, leaving chunk plays unrealized. And such would not be the OC's fault.
Yes but Lotus - my point is that seeing how our run game was working and how Griff was throwing - why keep trying?
How does that expression go...."the definition of insanity is seeing something that doesnt work and trying to do it over and over again?"
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Old 10-28-2013, 05:21 PM   #262
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Yes but Lotus - my point is that seeing how our run game was working and how Griff was throwing - why keep trying?
How does that expression go...."the definition of insanity is seeing something that doesnt work and trying to do it over and over again?"
Because we were playing Peyton Manning, who sooner or later is going to break loose - as we saw.

Another answer is, if the chunk plays are obviously there, why not take a stab?

Again, I think Kyle made some poor play calls. But IMO RGIII, and the interior line in front of him, were much bigger problems.
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Griffin was amazingly bad yesterday, worst game he's ever had not even close
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He sure was smarter on the field than off it....
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How did Reed not go sooner?? Dude is a stud
He didn't play anywhere close to this level in college. Based simply on what he did out there for Florida, I thought he borderline wasn't draftable. I thought a third round pick for a player like that was a very generous evaluation.

But when the Redskins picked him, I didn't complain. It was a classic "I can/will have to work with this pick." And you can't argue with what they turned him into. He gets it. He gets that in the NFL your first opportunity is your best, and if you wait until the second and third, you've turned yourself into a journeyman.

And also: he's really good.
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If the Redskins had done half as well at developing RG3 as they've done with Reed, they'd be 5-2 and they'd be printing playoff tickets in October.
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Because we were playing Peyton Manning, who sooner or later is going to break loose - as we saw.

Another answer is, if the chunk plays are obviously there, why not take a stab?

Again, I think Kyle made some poor play calls. But IMO RGIII, and the interior line in front of him, were much bigger problems.
Im not trying to diminish the execution.....it was horrible. Also as SS alluded to....and I guess im guilty of it to an extent.....i know there came a point where we had to pass, but there were a couple of drives there when it was a close game still that we completely abandonded the run, and the best way to beat Manning is keep him off the field. Even the announcers plainly dtated that it was strange that we went to the air a few times. I guess that it was more the crucial points in which we went away from the run as opposed to the amount of times we did so that make it seem so outrageous to me today. Either way, both the execution and playcalling better pull their ole heads outta their ole asses by next week.
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He didn't play anywhere close to this level in college. Based simply on what he did out there for Florida, I thought he borderline wasn't draftable. I thought a third round pick for a player like that was a very generous evaluation.

But when the Redskins picked him, I didn't complain. It was a classic "I can/will have to work with this pick." And you can't argue with what they turned him into. He gets it. He gets that in the NFL your first opportunity is your best, and if you wait until the second and third, you've turned yourself into a journeyman.

And also: he's really good.
He was also recruited as a quarterback by Florida. Made the transition to tight end and on top of that was surrounded by alot of weapons at Florida. So I think it was hard for him to really shine there having to share the ball with so many play makers.
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If the Redskins had done half as well at developing RG3 as they've done with Reed, they'd be 5-2 and they'd be printing playoff tickets in October.
Little bit more difficult developing a QB than a TE. TE is one of the easiest positions to fill. Everyone seems to have a pass catching TE.
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Im not trying to diminish the execution.....it was horrible. Also as SS alluded to....and I guess im guilty of it to an extent.....i know there came a point where we had to pass, but there were a couple of drives there when it was a close game still that we completely abandonded the run, and the best way to beat Manning is keep him off the field. Even the announcers plainly dtated that it was strange that we went to the air a few times. I guess that it was more the crucial points in which we went away from the run as opposed to the amount of times we did so that make it seem so outrageous to me today. Either way, both the execution and playcalling better pull their ole heads outta their ole asses by next week.
I agree with your final point for sure. I am not trying to exonerate Kyle's sometimes problematic play calling.

Let me offer the execution argument a different way: if RGIII had completed those passes and moved the chains, we likely would have followed passes with runs and thus run more. Just like we did on our drive to end the first half, where we mixed runs and passes. Completed passes also achieve the goal of keeping Manning on the sideline. Complete pass, run stretch, lather, rinse, repeat.

But one incomplete pass just creates another passing situation, etc. And the whole downward spiral can be traced back to the original lack of execution.
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