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Old 10-28-2013, 03:34 PM   #256
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If you read Garcon's take on ESPN, you learn two things: (a) he was wide open and, (b) the OC had correctly predicted earlier in the week that he would be wide open on certain plays.

This means that all the QB has to do is to take the OC's advice and we have big gainers.

Inexplicably, the QB did not do this, leaving chunk plays unrealized. And such would not be the OC's fault.
I wonder if Garcon took any of the blame for slipping and causing an INT. lol.
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Old 10-28-2013, 03:48 PM   #257
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:10 PM   #258
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One thing I haven't heard mentioned and that is severely lacking is a pass blocking RB. When Portis was there he prided himself on blowing up LB's or D-Linemen when they rushed up the middle. It seems that Kyle sends the backs out almost every pass play, would've helped yesterday after RG III got hit in the face after uh... the 10th time I guess.
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:28 PM   #259
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A few thoughts:

No one is talking about the Broncos' TD to tie the game at 21. We used a TO to get the right formation in place on their 4th down attempt, and then Gumbs slips.

I had no problem at all with being aggressive on the ensuing series. Yes it's a tie game but a) you don't win against the Broncos by being conservative, b) the execution-or lack thereof-was the bigger issue and c) who knew Rocca would channel his inner Joe Theismann (the punter, not the Super Beta prostate spokesman)

The next drive after that, now down 38-31, actually got off to a solid start. Short high percentage pass to Reed for 8. Morris moves the chains for another 1st down. Then Griffin, who I've always felt really needs to improve on climbing the pocket, loses the ball for a crucial turnover

Now down 10 points, on the first incompletion I would have run or gone with the easy checkdown to AlfMo, but Griffin looks to be telegraphing a bigger play downfield here. I think this was a combination (without seeing All 22 yet) of poor playcalling combined with poor in game decision making by the QB. Next play he's got Moss open in the flat but he hesitates and Kory L. can't hold (no pun intended) his man. Sack and ultimately we're forced to punt deep in our territory giving Denver the ball basically at midfield.

Pugh gets us the ball back and we run Morris for a loss, then the next pass, a pretty straightforward route, results in an INT because Garcon slips.

Anyhow, I could go on, but my point is the struggles were just as much on the execution side. This notion that we were locked in a tie game for several drives and were just gunslinging it is inaccurate though
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According to Cooley, Jordan Reed spent some time on the Jugs machine today catching......300 balls.....
Somebody gets it.
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How did Reed not go sooner?? Dude is a stud
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Buccaneers, Eagles, Texans lead midseason disappointments - NFL.com

Redskins, Texans far short of expectations
When I think of how I viewed them coming into the season, the two most disappointing teams to me are the Houston Texans and Washington Redskins. I thought both could win their respective divisions, but at 2-5, both are far from where I thought they'd be. Both teams have been plagued by inconsistent performance at the quarterback position, though for different reasons.

Robert Griffin III was coming off a major injury, so it was hard to say how he was going to play early in the season. Through seven games, he's had just one outing (against Chicago in Week 7) in which he played at a level similar to last year's. As for Houston, Matt Schaub has had some fine moments, but he's also had some disastrous moments. It appears to me that Schaub -- who's been supplanted by backup Case Keenum for Week 9 -- has lost some of his confidence, and that can be a tough thing to regain.
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:38 PM   #263
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We need the rest of the WR corp to get it too.
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:45 PM   #264
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I'd def put Atlanta high on the disappointment list.
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If you read Garcon's take on ESPN, you learn two things: (a) he was wide open and, (b) the OC had correctly predicted earlier in the week that he would be wide open on certain plays.

This means that all the QB has to do is to take the OC's advice and we have big gainers.

Inexplicably, the QB did not do this, leaving chunk plays unrealized. And such would not be the OC's fault.
Yes but Lotus - my point is that seeing how our run game was working and how Griff was throwing - why keep trying?
How does that expression go...."the definition of insanity is seeing something that doesnt work and trying to do it over and over again?"
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Yes but Lotus - my point is that seeing how our run game was working and how Griff was throwing - why keep trying?
How does that expression go...."the definition of insanity is seeing something that doesnt work and trying to do it over and over again?"
Because we were playing Peyton Manning, who sooner or later is going to break loose - as we saw.

Another answer is, if the chunk plays are obviously there, why not take a stab?

Again, I think Kyle made some poor play calls. But IMO RGIII, and the interior line in front of him, were much bigger problems.
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Griffin was amazingly bad yesterday, worst game he's ever had not even close
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Dexter = dummy
He sure was smarter on the field than off it....
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How did Reed not go sooner?? Dude is a stud
He didn't play anywhere close to this level in college. Based simply on what he did out there for Florida, I thought he borderline wasn't draftable. I thought a third round pick for a player like that was a very generous evaluation.

But when the Redskins picked him, I didn't complain. It was a classic "I can/will have to work with this pick." And you can't argue with what they turned him into. He gets it. He gets that in the NFL your first opportunity is your best, and if you wait until the second and third, you've turned yourself into a journeyman.

And also: he's really good.
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If the Redskins had done half as well at developing RG3 as they've done with Reed, they'd be 5-2 and they'd be printing playoff tickets in October.
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