90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?

PSUSkinsFan21 · 03-23-2005, 08:15 AM

Just in case you all missed it:

Originally Posted by Daseal:
"Arrington not there? What a great team leader he is!"

Now don't you feel foolish? Darn those facts for always getting in the way. D'oh!

EEich · 03-23-2005, 08:39 AM

Jumping to conclusions. How unusual.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-23-2005, 08:40 AM

And the last horse crosses the finish line...

Daseal · 03-23-2005, 09:38 AM

PSUSKinsFan: Guess what, someone earlier in the thread said he wasn't there, I assumed they had a source. If not that had reason to believe that since the year before he missed multiple voluntary workouts. So don't get on your high Arrington horse and ride him into the model-player sunset.

Name once I've said I'm sure Penn State had academic violations? I've said I'm sure they have NCAA violations, that doesn't always mean giving students A's -- though if they had tutors doing homework I wouldn't be shocked.. Of course I can't prove it, schools cover this up and take forever to do so even with the appropriate resources. I promise you Penn State has broken NCAA rules, every school has.

skinsguy · 03-23-2005, 10:55 AM

Are you talking about when someone said that Arrington MAY have not been there because he MIGHT have been on his honeymoon? If so, that is just speculation on the part of that poster and unless he has direct ties with the team, it should just be treated as mere speculation and not fact.

Daseal · 03-23-2005, 11:39 AM

Notice the ? mark, skinsfan? I said Arrington not there? If that's true, then he's a bad team leader (oh wait, he's a bad team leader anyways.)

Mattyk · 03-23-2005, 11:42 AM

Arrington is a bad leader yet Coles is a good guy

rrrrrrrrright

Redskins_P · 03-23-2005, 11:45 AM

Just like Gibbs sucks, and Spurrier is a genius.

Mattyk · 03-23-2005, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Just like Gibbs sucks, and Spurrier is a genius.

makes sense to me!

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-23-2005, 12:02 PM

Bad leader sounds very oxymoronish to me. It's kind of like, "You're a leader or you're not."

Daseal · 03-23-2005, 12:36 PM

Please, Matty. Show me where Arrington has stepped up and taken the team on his back? I have yet to see it, he talks like he wants it but when the going gets tuff, LaVar quiets down.

Do I ever say Spurrier good, Gibbs bad? I use the same arguments against Gibbs everyone used against Spurrier. Funny how that works. All of a sudden it's the players not executing - not poor coaching. I've said a million times that Spurrier had his share of problems, he needed to make adjustments. I've said the same thing about Gibbs's'sees', have I also not said he has three years to turn the team around before I call for a replacement? I think I have in nearly every thread. The same grace period I would have given Spurrier or any other coach. The difference between the two is Gibbs was smart enough to get one of the best coaching staffs in the NFL and still can't win.

Malcolm - he keeps trying to be a leader, but can't fill the shoes. Therefore making him a bad leader.

Monksdown · 03-23-2005, 12:38 PM

Daseal-was it two years ago when Arrington intercepted that pass. And the Redskins had an emotional recovery through the remainder of the season. When was that? And Arrington's arrogance and physical dominance is an anchor on defense. I've always thought that players like him elevate their worth in the locker room.

Daseal · 03-23-2005, 12:41 PM

He made a big play - good. He was the #2 overall pick. That's what they do. However, calling him a leader because he got an interception isn't accurate. Todd Franz got an interception, was he a leader after that game?

Monksdown · 03-23-2005, 12:42 PM

I honestly dont really buy into it too much either. But espn loved to show that as the turning point in our season.

Redskins_P · 03-23-2005, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daseal

The difference between the two is Gibbs was smart enough to get one of the best coaching staffs in the NFL and still can't win.

It was his first year back after being out of the game for 12 years. Get over last year. Stop crying about it and move on.

03-23-2005, 08:15 AM	#46
PSUSkinsFan21 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 36 Posts: 1,340	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Just in case you all missed it: Originally Posted by Daseal: "Arrington not there? What a great team leader he is!" Now don't you feel foolish? Darn those facts for always getting in the way. D'oh! __________________ "Hail to the Redskins!" and "Fight on State!"

03-23-2005, 08:39 AM	#47
EEich The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bristol, CT Age: 49 Posts: 1,001	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Jumping to conclusions. How unusual.

03-23-2005, 08:40 AM	#48
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,120	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? And the last horse crosses the finish line... __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-23-2005, 09:38 AM	#49
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? PSUSKinsFan: Guess what, someone earlier in the thread said he wasn't there, I assumed they had a source. If not that had reason to believe that since the year before he missed multiple voluntary workouts. So don't get on your high Arrington horse and ride him into the model-player sunset. Name once I've said I'm sure Penn State had academic violations? I've said I'm sure they have NCAA violations, that doesn't always mean giving students A's -- though if they had tutors doing homework I wouldn't be shocked.. Of course I can't prove it, schools cover this up and take forever to do so even with the appropriate resources. I promise you Penn State has broken NCAA rules, every school has.

03-23-2005, 10:55 AM	#50
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,002	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Are you talking about when someone said that Arrington MAY have not been there because he MIGHT have been on his honeymoon? If so, that is just speculation on the part of that poster and unless he has direct ties with the team, it should just be treated as mere speculation and not fact. __________________ Not the same Skinsguy that posts on ES.

03-23-2005, 11:39 AM	#51
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Notice the ? mark, skinsfan? I said Arrington not there? If that's true, then he's a bad team leader (oh wait, he's a bad team leader anyways.)

03-23-2005, 11:42 AM	#52
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,739	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Arrington is a bad leader yet Coles is a good guy rrrrrrrrright __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-23-2005, 11:45 AM	#53
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sterling, VA Age: 34 Posts: 4,065	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Just like Gibbs sucks, and Spurrier is a genius.

03-23-2005, 12:02 PM	#55
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,120	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Bad leader sounds very oxymoronish to me. It's kind of like, "You're a leader or you're not." __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-23-2005, 12:36 PM	#56
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Please, Matty. Show me where Arrington has stepped up and taken the team on his back? I have yet to see it, he talks like he wants it but when the going gets tuff, LaVar quiets down. Do I ever say Spurrier good, Gibbs bad? I use the same arguments against Gibbs everyone used against Spurrier. Funny how that works. All of a sudden it's the players not executing - not poor coaching. I've said a million times that Spurrier had his share of problems, he needed to make adjustments. I've said the same thing about Gibbs's'sees', have I also not said he has three years to turn the team around before I call for a replacement? I think I have in nearly every thread. The same grace period I would have given Spurrier or any other coach. The difference between the two is Gibbs was smart enough to get one of the best coaching staffs in the NFL and still can't win. Malcolm - he keeps trying to be a leader, but can't fill the shoes. Therefore making him a bad leader.

03-23-2005, 12:38 PM	#57
Monksdown Robert Griffin III Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 32 Posts: 1,495	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Daseal-was it two years ago when Arrington intercepted that pass. And the Redskins had an emotional recovery through the remainder of the season. When was that? And Arrington's arrogance and physical dominance is an anchor on defense. I've always thought that players like him elevate their worth in the locker room. __________________ Robert Griffin III

03-23-2005, 12:41 PM	#58
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? He made a big play - good. He was the #2 overall pick. That's what they do. However, calling him a leader because he got an interception isn't accurate. Todd Franz got an interception, was he a leader after that game?

03-23-2005, 12:42 PM	#59
Monksdown Robert Griffin III Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 32 Posts: 1,495	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? I honestly dont really buy into it too much either. But espn loved to show that as the turning point in our season. __________________ Robert Griffin III

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