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Old 11-19-2013, 10:48 AM   #151
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It's gotten to the point on NFLN anytime they show highlights and RG3 runs, someone is in the background muttering something about him not lasting the season. If anyone else is running it's oh what a great play.

NFLN is a total joke and so is their cast, their games suck as well, only thing they get right is a football life
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He has better running instincts than RG3, doesn't take hits like him either.

Oh really?


Smarter player? Doesn't take hits? Yes Cam is talented but you can't deny that he plays recklessly too.




















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Also, there's this:

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Newton definitely takes his fair share of hits. Yes he's got a bigger frame to absorb them but the point remains, he could get hurt just as easily as anyone else. Knees are fragile.
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Newton definitely takes his fair share of hits. Yes he's got a bigger frame to absorb them but the point remains, he could get hurt just as easily as anyone else. Knees are fragile.
Yep, and people seem to forget Griffin is 6'2" and built solid. No QB since Brady Quinn has hit the weights as hard as Robert.

3 inches of height isn't a huge difference when it comes to getting hit by a freight train like Patrick Willis.

He's a lot stronger and tougher than he's given credit for. He has taken some monster hits and just gets up.

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Newton definitely takes his fair share of hits. Yes he's got a bigger frame to absorb them but the point remains, he could get hurt just as easily as anyone else. Knees are fragile.
People talk about Griffin like he is 170 pounds or something and 5'9".
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Oh really?


Smarter player? Doesn't take hits? Yes Cam is talented but you can't deny that he plays recklessly too.




















Injured on this play:

Also, there's this:

I never said he was a smarter player, I said he has better instincts than RG3 when to get down, when to run on a pass play and running in general.

Cam Newton has played three seasons... hasn't missed a game. Part of that is size, no doubt. Part of that is him being able to slide and run out of bounds and not take unnecessary hits. I think a big part of that is also he rarely pitches the ball like RG3, which I think is the dumbest thing the Redskins do.

I see a big difference between there running styles. RG3 is a sprinter that sees a first down and will do anything to get it. Cam Newton is shiftier and has that 6th sense to him, similar to Russell Wilson. That is just my opinion on the two running styles.
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It was a proper technical call. Gronk was not going to stop on a dime, while running at full speed, plant a foot and pivot 130 degrees back and dive to possibly get a hand on the ball. It would have taken maybe the most fantastic athletic play in history to even touch the ball. Zero chance he was going to catch it.
If I had to wager, than of course I am betting on him not making that play. However, it is not up to the refs to say he wouldnt make the greatest athletic play in history. If there is even the most remote chance he can catch it than you have to throw the flag. It was a bad call.
That being said - fuck the Pats they get alot if bad calls going their way - hows it feel bitches?
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If I had to wager, than of course I am betting on him not making that play. However, it is not up to the refs to say he wouldnt make the greatest athletic play in history. If there is even the most remote chance he can catch it than you have to throw the flag. It was a bad call.
That being said - fuck the Pats they get alot if bad calls going their way - hows it feel bitches?
There wasn't. Everyone gets mad at the refs for blowing games but when they make the call that is in line with the rule book, everyone turns into analysts. Luke Kuchely didn't wrap his hands around Gronk until the ball got to Lester. IF you wanna call defensive holding you have a better argument, but by pass interference rules that isnt it. When LaRon Landry had the exact same play in the 2007 playoff game against the Seahawks no one was crying there.
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It was a good non-call in my opinion.
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I thought it was good no call but when the ref threw the flag and then said nevermind... I would have been very angry if I was Bill or Tom.
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I never said he was a smarter player, I said he has better instincts than RG3 when to get down, when to run on a pass play and running in general.

Cam Newton has played three seasons... hasn't missed a game. Part of that is size, no doubt. Part of that is him being able to slide and run out of bounds and not take unnecessary hits. I think a big part of that is also he rarely pitches the ball like RG3, which I think is the dumbest thing the Redskins do.

I see a big difference between there running styles. RG3 is a sprinter that sees a first down and will do anything to get it. Cam Newton is shiftier and has that 6th sense to him, similar to Russell Wilson. That is just my opinion on the two running styles.
The Cam-RG3 comparison is an interesting one for sure. At this point last year, there were a lot of people down on Cam.. He wasn't developing as a passer, he needed to do a better job running the offense, he wasn't maturing as a leader, his game had 'regressed'...sound familiar?

Cam is definitely bigger and his frame is more suited for taking some hits. Instinctually I think he's more naturally inclined to football than RG3 from the standpoint of elusiveness and quick movements. If you think about it, we've never seen RG3 juke someone out of their shoes, he just outruns them. Cam has short area and open field moves that are more instinct than training and repetition.

Weapons wise on offense, we are very similar to the Panthers.. One standout WR and some fillers, a playmaking TE and a yardage eating RB (and a coach under fire). Watching to see if RG follows the Cam trajectory in year #3 to start translating that into wins.
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The Cam-RG3 comparison is an interesting one for sure. At this point last year, there were a lot of people down on Cam.. He wasn't developing as a passer, he needed to do a better job running the offense, he wasn't maturing as a leader, his game had 'regressed'...sound familiar?

Cam is definitely bigger and his frame is more suited for taking some hits. Instinctually I think he's more naturally inclined to football than RG3 from the standpoint of elusiveness and quick movements. If you think about it, we've never seen RG3 juke someone out of their shoes, he just outruns them. Cam has short area and open field moves that are more instinct than training and repetition.

Weapons wise on offense, we are very similar to the Panthers.. One standout WR and some fillers, a playmaking TE and a yardage eating RB (and a coach under fire). Watching to see if RG follows the Cam trajectory in year #3 to start translating that into wins.
Eh?

Just one example

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The Cam-RG3 comparison is an interesting one for sure. At this point last year, there were a lot of people down on Cam.. He wasn't developing as a passer, he needed to do a better job running the offense, he wasn't maturing as a leader, his game had 'regressed'...sound familiar?

Cam is definitely bigger and his frame is more suited for taking some hits. Instinctually I think he's more naturally inclined to football than RG3 from the standpoint of elusiveness and quick movements. If you think about it, we've never seen RG3 juke someone out of their shoes, he just outruns them. Cam has short area and open field moves that are more instinct than training and repetition.

Weapons wise on offense, we are very similar to the Panthers.. One standout WR and some fillers, a playmaking TE and a yardage eating RB (and a coach under fire). Watching to see if RG follows the Cam trajectory in year #3 to start translating that into wins.
This is exactly what I am saying. I think RG3 will develop into a much better passer because Cam Newton is still inconsistent, except he unlike RG3 hasn't had knee surgery that has completely thrown off his mechanics.

I think the big difference between the Panthers and the Redskins are the front 7's and the Offensive lines. The Panthers obviously prioritized those two fronts, which I hope the Redskins do as well.
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Eh?

Just one example

Duly noted.. Is that the exception or the rule. How often does he break down in the open field and shake someone? It's honestly not a criticism, more of an observation in comparison of styles.
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Duly noted.. Is that the exception or the rule. How often does he break down in the open field and shake someone? It's honestly not a criticism, more of an observation in comparison of styles.
We've been watching him for almost 2 seasons now. You seriously don't ever see him get himself out of trouble by being elusive? Yes I think his speed and quickness are his main strengths when running but he's pretty darn elusive too.
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