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Paintrain · 11-19-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

We've been watching him for almost 2 seasons now. You seriously don't ever see him get himself out of trouble by being elusive? Yes I think his speed and quickness are his main strengths when running but he's pretty darn elusive too.

Maybe I mis-stated it a little.. My point was that he's less likely than Cam to 'juke' than he is to outrun someone. Cam's running strength is being able to break tackles and break a defender down in space with a short area move. RG3's strength as a runner is to break down the tackling angles with his speed and beat someone to a spot and potentially turn the corner. Neither is better or worse or a criticism, just a difference in styles. Not to say that RG can't do those things, it's just not his primary running strength.

Ruhskins · 11-19-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Eh?

Just one example

What a difference between that offensive line and how those same guys are performing terribly this year.

JoeRedskin · 11-19-2013, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

We've been watching him for almost 2 seasons now. You seriously don't ever see him get himself out of trouble by being elusive? Yes I think his speed and quickness are his main strengths when running but he's pretty darn elusive too.

One of my absolute "elusive" RGIII moments was in the second (?) Eagles game last year. Running down the sideline, looks like he is going to cut back into the field and an Eagle defender is just waiting to lower the boom. RGIII does a little spin out of bounds while giving the would be tackler an "O Le' " move. Just makes the Eagle player look stupid.

punch it in · 11-19-2013, 12:31 PM

Mike perrera - or whatever his name is - says it was a penalty.
So does Rich Gannon, and whatever Gannon says goes.

punch it in · 11-19-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

There wasn't. Everyone gets mad at the refs for blowing games but when they make the call that is in line with the rule book, everyone turns into analysts. Luke Kuchely didn't wrap his hands around Gronk until the ball got to Lester. IF you wanna call defensive holding you have a better argument, but by pass interference rules that isnt it. When LaRon Landry had the exact same play in the 2007 playoff game against the Seahawks no one was crying there.

He absolutely held him before the ball got there.
Edit: dont remember the 07 call. I dont really give a crap about the Pats, lol. Just my opinion on the call. If the skins got that call for them im jumping for joy, if not im bitching and moaning - im a Skins fan. However even when the skins get a call in their favor I will still say its a bad call if i think it is one.

Monkeydad · 11-19-2013, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

Maybe I mis-stated it a little.. My point was that he's less likely than Cam to 'juke' than he is to outrun someone. Cam's running strength is being able to break tackles and break a defender down in space with a short area move. RG3's strength as a runner is to break down the tackling angles with his speed and beat someone to a spot and potentially turn the corner. Neither is better or worse or a criticism, just a difference in styles. Not to say that RG can't do those things, it's just not his primary running strength.

That's because Robert is faster than Cam.

skinsguy · 11-19-2013, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

What a difference between that offensive line and how those same guys are performing terribly this year.

Watching that video, I just realized why this team is losing this year. They got rid of the toilet collars! Bring back the toilet collars! LOL!

punch it in · 11-19-2013, 12:50 PM

Just so were all clear on whether or not he was held before the ball got there....

skinsguy · 11-19-2013, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

Just so were all clear on whether or not he was held before the ball got there....

I'm sorry. Could you make that picture any smaller?

punch it in · 11-19-2013, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

I'm sorry. Could you make that picture any smaller?

Looks big on my phone?

skinsfaninok · 11-19-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

I'm sorry. Could you make that picture any smaller?

lmao

punch it in · 11-19-2013, 01:07 PM

Is it really small? Lol. It looks totally normal on my iphone.

Skinzman · 11-19-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

Just so were all clear on whether or not he was held before the ball got there....

I dont think you, nor 90% of the people, understand the rule. It was pass interference, as evidenced by the ref throwing the flag, that is not in question. However, there is a rule in the NFL that if a ball is uncatchable, the pass interference is negated.

Which brings us to why was the ball ruled uncatchable? Because of another rule saying that if the ball is batted or intercepted by a defensive player before getting to the receiver, then its automatically ruled uncatchable. Since it was intercepted prior to arriving at Gronk, the ball being uncatchable rule is automatically put into effect.

Had the ball not been intercepted or deflected prior to arriving at Gronk, then the pass interference would have been enforced and NE would have the ball at the 1 and have one more play.

If you want to argue that its a stupid rule, so be it. But the ruling on the field based on the rules was the correct call. The interception automatically makes it considered an uncatchable ball. Once its ruled uncatchable, that negates the pass interference call.

redskins5044 · 11-19-2013, 01:32 PM

I believe it was uncatchable, but also think the penalty they threw on the Olsen pass was uncatchable. All penalties in a game are a judgment call the refs have to make. Only thing I don't understand is why couldn't they have called it holding, they do all the time on receivers who aren't the intended target.

skinsguy · 11-19-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

Is it really small? Lol. It looks totally normal on my iphone.

Yeah, it's pretty small. I'm looking at it on my computer.

11-19-2013, 12:31 PM	#169
punch it in MVP Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 46 Posts: 11,232	Around the NFL Week 11 Mike perrera - or whatever his name is - says it was a penalty. So does Rich Gannon, and whatever Gannon says goes. __________________ I'm living in yesterday's tomorrows.

11-19-2013, 12:50 PM	#173
punch it in MVP Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 46 Posts: 11,232	Just so were all clear on whether or not he was held before the ball got there.... __________________ I'm living in yesterday's tomorrows.

11-19-2013, 01:07 PM	#177
punch it in MVP Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 46 Posts: 11,232	Is it really small? Lol. It looks totally normal on my iphone. __________________ I'm living in yesterday's tomorrows.

11-19-2013, 01:32 PM	#179
redskins5044 Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Schertz, Tx Age: 38 Posts: 3,224	Re: Around the NFL Week 11 I believe it was uncatchable, but also think the penalty they threw on the Olsen pass was uncatchable. All penalties in a game are a judgment call the refs have to make. Only thing I don't understand is why couldn't they have called it holding, they do all the time on receivers who aren't the intended target. __________________ Spider 2 Y Banana Jr. is the new Head Coach.

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