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Old 12-02-2013, 01:35 PM   #76
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Exactly! I don't want Jon Gruden anywhere near this team. It's a mistake to want him over Mike Shanahan.
Yep, mistake that he took the Raiders to a SB, then a mistake he went to a totally different team with a totally different QB and took them to a SB.

I preferred him over MS, but ... we got MS. I didn't complain, MS had a pretty good record also. The key is there really is no good answer. Look at Coughlin, making him a HC was questionable at best but he panned out for the Giants. Look at the Chiefs, everyone said Reid was washed up ( I would love to have had him), but his team is winning. Look at Denver, I never would have figured Jon Fox to fix his old looking antiquated system, but the Bronco's look good.

So I wouldn't completely pass on Gruden. Plus he's had a chance to see what teams around the league and what works and doesn't work.
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Old 12-02-2013, 02:08 PM   #77
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Exactly! I don't want Jon Gruden anywhere near this team. It's a mistake to want him over Mike Shanahan.
Mike Shanahan should be fired. More importantly, he deserves to be fired. I'm not sure Gruden is the right guy for this job, that's for Snyder to figure out, but I do know we won't be running the triple option if he is the coach.
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Yep, mistake that he took the Raiders to a SB, then a mistake he went to a totally different team with a totally different QB and took them to a SB.

I preferred him over MS, but ... we got MS. I didn't complain, MS had a pretty good record also. The key is there really is no good answer. Look at Coughlin, making him a HC was questionable at best but he panned out for the Giants. Look at the Chiefs, everyone said Reid was washed up ( I would love to have had him), but his team is winning. Look at Denver, I never would have figured Jon Fox to fix his old looking antiquated system, but the Bronco's look good.

So I wouldn't completely pass on Gruden. Plus he's had a chance to see what teams around the league and what works and doesn't work.
Gruden didn't take the Raiders to the Super Bowl.
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Old 12-02-2013, 02:24 PM   #79
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Yep, mistake that he took the Raiders to a SB, then a mistake he went to a totally different team with a totally different QB and took them to a SB.

I preferred him over MS, but ... we got MS. I didn't complain, MS had a pretty good record also. The key is there really is no good answer. Look at Coughlin, making him a HC was questionable at best but he panned out for the Giants. Look at the Chiefs, everyone said Reid was washed up ( I would love to have had him), but his team is winning. Look at Denver, I never would have figured Jon Fox to fix his old looking antiquated system, but the Bronco's look good.

So I wouldn't completely pass on Gruden. Plus he's had a chance to see what teams around the league and what works and doesn't work.
When did Gruden take the Raiders to the Super Bowl?
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Old 12-02-2013, 02:28 PM   #80
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He didn't take Oakland to the SB but that was his team. That was his offense. He made Rich Gannon into a star. Made Brad Johnson into a SB QB. If I'm Dan Snyder, Jon Gruden is the first person that I'm getting on the phone. I think he's just what this team needs.
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Old 12-02-2013, 02:29 PM   #81
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Mike Shanahan should be fired. More importantly, he deserves to be fired. I'm not sure Gruden is the right guy for this job, that's for Snyder to figure out, but I do know we won't be running the triple option if he is the coach.
Gruden would run some sort of west coast-spread hybrid. I guess we'll know for sure next season... maybe
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Gruden would run some sort of west coast-spread hybrid. I guess we'll know for sure next season... maybe
I hope your talking Jay over Jon. I really hope you are.
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Old 12-02-2013, 02:32 PM   #83
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Gruden would run some sort of west coast-spread hybrid. I guess we'll know for sure next season... maybe
Any possibility we keep things family style and end up with a Jon and Jay combo? lol
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Any possibility we keep things family style and end up with a Jon and Jay combo? lol
I think the inherent competitive aspect between siblings could produce awesome results, assuming they're mature enough to leave bickering aside and anything that could distract from team focus.
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Any possibility we keep things family style and end up with a Jon and Jay combo? lol

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Gruden would run some sort of west coast-spread hybrid. I guess we'll know for sure next season... maybe
I thought you said on here earlier that he had no interest in coaching again. Did something change?
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I think the inherent competitive aspect between siblings could produce awesome results, assuming they're mature enough to leave bickering aside and anything that could distract from team focus.
I'm not sure there would be enough room for those egos. One Gruden is probably more than plenty in one building at a time.

Besides, if we're hiring Jon don't we want him running the offense? That's his specialty after all.
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I'm not sure there would be enough room for those egos. One Gruden is probably more than plenty in one building at a time.

Besides, if we're hiring Jon don't we want him running the offense? That's his specialty after all.

wonder who JG will bring in as his DC?
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I thought you said on here earlier that he had no interest in coaching again. Did something change?

He said a couple weeks ago that he does want to coach again soon
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Jon and Jay did work together in Tampa, so I don't think it's a big deal.
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