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Old 12-03-2013, 10:18 AM   #211
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I think some people may be under the impression that RG3 is normally just fast enough to outrun pursuit by defensive linemen, but I think guys like Justin Tuck are always going to be able to track down even the fastest quarterbacks when they are looking downfield. That's not a knee or leg issue, just try running as fast as you can someday while looking in a completely different direction than you are running. It will slow you down considerably.
Those same people don't understand things like pursuit angles, lateral speed, acceleration, etc. From an even start at a dead sprint, I doubt there is anyone who catches RG3 from behind, but factoring all those other things into play, it's not surprising. What is surprising (although I think many times it's just analyst speak) is how often color commentators don't recognize this and simply chalk it up lazily to 'he's not as fast/explosive'. While that may be a factor, let's not act like he never got caught in '12 either.
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Those same people don't understand things like pursuit angles, lateral speed, acceleration, etc. From an even start at a dead sprint, I doubt there is anyone who catches RG3 from behind, but factoring all those other things into play, it's not surprising. What is surprising (although I think many times it's just analyst speak) is how often color commentators don't recognize this and simply chalk it up lazily to 'he's not as fast/explosive'. While that may be a factor, let's not act like he never got caught in '12 either.
Color commentators annoy me a lot, as you may imagine, but I do have to remind myself that it is a very difficult job they have.
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I would argue the big opportunities aren't there mostly because he isn't looking for them. He's content with the 8-10 yd runs and the D will give that to him all day.
Why dive and fly thru the air if you're not looking to make big plays. That is the proof that he is not looking to just get of of bounds. If he was looking to not get extra yards then he would have also got of bounds before making that first down play while flipping like Olga Korbut. I believe what I see before what I hear. What you believe and I believe is what it is but when I see plays like that first down play which is not a run out of bounds play that is proof.

Is he more careful this year and get of bounds when nothing else is there? Yes. Is the brace slowing him down. Yes. Is he getting of bounds and leaving big plays that he could run and and make. No. If you see a play where he could have run for a touchdown or 50 yards and he didn't post it so we can all see. I'll admit I'm wrong if you can. There is a new thread about who the head coach should be which was a thread The Goat already brought up. Any personal reason you would shut down a thread of someone who brings up a thread supposedly already discussed but leave another thread up that was already "discussed" Not that I don't mind talking about any subject mind you more than once but I see now why my thread was closed at least.

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Why dive and fly thru the air if you're not looking to make big plays. That is the proof that he is not looking to just get of of bounds. If he was looking to not get extra yards then he would have also got of bounds before making that first down play while flipping like Olga Korbut. I believe what I see before what I hear. What you believe and I believe is what it is but when I see plays like that first down play which is not a run out of bounds play that is proof.

Is he more careful this year and get of bounds when nothing else is there? Yes. Is the brace slowing him down. Yes. Is he getting of bounds and leaving big plays that he could run and and make. No. If you see a play where he could have run for a touchdown or 50 yards and he didn't post it so we can all see. I'll admit I'm wrong if you can. There is a new thread about who the head coach should be which was a thread The Goat already brought up. Any personal reason you would shut down a thread of someone who brings up a thread supposedly already discussed but leave another thread already discussed but posted by someone for a different personal reason? Not that I don't mind talking about any subject mind you but I see now why my thread was closed at least. If you don't like them you shut it down but if you like them they stay up. It's your board though. I say Jon Gruden would be a great coach. I really don't mind discussing something more than once.
Goat's thread had gotten silly and he had actually asked that it be closed.
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Goat's thread had gotten silly and he had actually asked that it be closed.
Yea after 50 some pages. Clearly not enough discussion there. Not that I care about repeat subjects. Forget it I know what the deal is. I was just thinking out loud that confirmed something i already knew and should have kept to myself. Any coach would be better on a side note. Because the Redskins are playing not so good. When the brace comes off his knee is when we can see if he can get it done.

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Why dive and fly thru the air if you're not looking to make big plays. That is the proof that he is not looking to just get of of bounds. If he was looking to not get extra yards then he would have also got of bounds before making that first down play while flipping like Olga Korbut. I believe what I see before what I hear. What you believe and I believe is what it is but when I see plays like that first down play which is not a run out of bounds play that is proof.

Is he more careful this year and get of bounds when nothing else is there? Yes. Is the brace slowing him down. Yes. Is he getting of bounds and leaving big plays that he could run and and make. No. If you see a play where he could have run for a touchdown or 50 yards and he didn't post it so we can all see. I'll admit I'm wrong if you can. There is a new thread about who the head coach should be which was a thread The Goat already brought up. Any personal reason you would shut down a thread of someone who brings up a thread supposedly already discussed but leave another thread up that was already "discussed" Not that I don't mind talking about any subject mind you more than once but I see now why my thread was closed at least.
Just from my own observance and following some folks on Twitter that break down plays it's pretty clear that RG is not nearly as aggressive when running this year. On occasion yes he has fought for yards when he needs to, but overall he's just not attacking defenses with his legs like he did last year. He heads straight to the sideline most of the time, he's not looking to cut back for more, and he doesn't push the issue on the option play, i.e. he doesn't sell it like he did last year.

No personal reasons as to why your thread was closed, as I pointed out there was already a couple of active threads discussing RG, no need for another one was all. Just trying to keep the board clean.
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Just from my own observance and following some folks on Twitter that break down plays it's pretty clear that RG is not nearly as aggressive when running this year. On occasion yes he has fought for yards when he needs to, but overall he's just not attacking defenses with his legs like he did last year. He heads straight to the sideline most of the time, he's not looking to cut back for more, and he doesn't push the issue on the option play, i.e. he doesn't sell it like he did last year.

No personal reasons as to why your thread was closed, as I pointed out there was already a couple of active threads discussing RG, no need for another one was all. Just trying to keep the board clean.
Can't argue with what you believe to be true. Surely your opinion is based on what you believe. I do believe there is another repeat thread about head coaches. Not that there is anything wrong with that on my end.

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Can't argue with what you believe to be true. Surely your opinion is based on what you believe. I do believe there is another repeat thread about head coaches.Not that there is anything wrong with that on my end.
Yes, we frequently shut down threads when they've gone on too long or have gotten off track and start up fresh ones on the same topic. And sometimes there are multiple threads that overlap on the same stuff. But believe me it's nothing personal. I don't have the time nor do I care to be that petty.
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I would argue the big opportunities aren't there mostly because he isn't looking for them. He's content with the 8-10 yd runs and the D will give that to him all day.
I'm sure RG3 is not looking for big plays. That makes sense.He sees that he can make a big play but decides not to do it. Both my points have been made.
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Yes, we frequently shut down threads when they've gone on too long or have gotten off track and start up fresh ones on the same topic. And sometimes there are multiple threads that overlap on the same stuff. But believe me it's nothing personal. I don't have the time nor do I care to be that petty.
So my thread overlapped and 50 pages of the Goats topic seems to go on a good way. What is the new fresh part you speak of on head coaches? So I don't follow a word you just said. But that's because that isn't the reason. Just be honest.
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:12 PM   #221
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The real issue here is that we just haven't been a winning team since we let Devery Henderson go. Everyone is just too blind to see that
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:12 PM   #222
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Anyone see the superman facemask on PG at the end of the game? Holy shit.. How's his head still on? LMAO

On a serious note.. Should of been called.

Would of put as at the 35 yardline with 1:48 left.

Oh well
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So my thread overlapped and 50 pages of the Goats topic on the same thing is longer than the one page you showed me about my topic so I don't follow a word you just said. But that's because that isn't the reason. Just be honest.
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This is a post game thread? Do we need to make a Sonny9 conspiracy against the MODS thread? lol
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So my thread overlapped and 50 pages of the Goats topic seems to go on a good way. What is the new fresh part you speak of on head coaches? So I don't follow a word you just said. But that's because that isn't the reason. Just be honest.
Is this about question 3?
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