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Old 12-02-2013, 01:21 AM   #31
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My two cents...

Jim Haslet has to go, the Special Teams coach has to go, team needs a total rebuild of the offensive line, and all new defensive backs.

Just my two cents.

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Old 12-02-2013, 01:22 AM   #32
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He has had four years to try to get better players... When the offense, defense, and special teams all suck after 4 years, who should be held accountable? The players that the coach selected, developed and put in position to fail or should all the blame go to the players even though the coaches failed them?
Who said anything about all the blame?
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:23 AM   #33
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My Lineup for next year:

QB: RG3
RB: ALF/ Helu
FB: D. Young
WR: K. Britt
WR: P. Garcon
TE: Reed
LT: T. Williams
LG: R. Incognito
C: W. Montgomery
RG: New Starter
RT: Winston Justice

Defense: I want to run the Seattle Leo Defense

CB: D. Hall/ D. Amerson
CB: A. Talib
FS: J. Byrd
SS: Thomas
OLB: B. Orakpo
MLB: P. Riley
MLB: S. Skov/ (Fletcher as assistant coach LB)
OLB: R. Kerrigan
NT: A. Branch
DE: B. Cofield
DE: B. Bowen
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:25 AM   #34
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My Lineup for next year:

QB: RG3
RB: ALF/ Helu
FB: D. Young
WR: K. Britt
WR: P. Garcon
TE: Reed
LT: T. Williams
LG: R. Incognito
C: W. Montgomery
RG: New Starter
RT: Winston Justice

Defense: I want to run the Seattle Leo Defense

CB: D. Hall/ D. Amerson
CB: A. Talib
FS: J. Byrd
SS: Thomas
OLB: B. Orakpo
MLB: P. Riley
MLB: S. Skov/ (Fletcher as assistant coach LB)
OLB: R. Kerrigan
NT: A. Branch
DE: B. Cofield
DE: B. Bowen
That's a huge FA list
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:27 AM   #35
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Garcon is a solid WR but man we have nobody else for RG3, and everyone keeps saying reed but he's glass man, dude is always hurt and has missed what the last 2 or 3 games now?? So u really cant say he's a sure starter.


As for Kenny Britt? No thanks man , hes a punk and not a team guy at all. I'd like Byrd but I doubt bills let him go and talib will stay in NE he loves it and they love him
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:27 AM   #36
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Who said anything about all the blame?
I was responding to his/her comment about how the players are just bad. Players deserve the blame but after 4 years... In my opinion the coaches have to start taking the responsibility.
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:28 AM   #37
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Who said anything about all the blame?
Looks like he is blaming the offense defense and special teams.....
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:29 AM   #38
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Really? Any coach can come and win with the sorry as players we have? What a moronic thing to say.

People need to get over the boner inducing hate on our coaches. They are not blameless, but if players can't make simple plays, not even Lombardi makes them win.

We need better players period. If we had AVERAGE offensive linemen, ILBs, and secondary receivers, we'd have a better record.

One thing is to take young unproven players and make them play well (see Indy last year). But another is having mediocre players that can't block, catch, or tackle.
Thats not moronic to say at all. Robert can thrive in any system. Alfred can run in any system. It's these dick fuck Shanahans that could end his career before it gets off the ground.
Yes. Any coach could do a better job than Kyle, b/c Kyle is a one of kind fucking 'tard to have his QB managed the way he does. Kyle leads te league in WR's in the backfield. Robert can be a QB if only Kyle were 86'd.
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:30 AM   #39
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My Lineup for next year:

QB: RG3
RB: ALF/ Helu
FB: D. Young
WR: K. Britt
WR: P. Garcon
TE: Reed
LT: T. Williams
LG: R. Incognito
C: W. Montgomery
RG: New Starter
RT: Winston Justice

Defense: I want to run the Seattle Leo Defense

CB: D. Hall/ D. Amerson
CB: A. Talib
FS: J. Byrd
SS: Thomas
OLB: B. Orakpo
MLB: P. Riley
MLB: S. Skov/ (Fletcher as assistant coach LB)
OLB: R. Kerrigan
NT: A. Branch
DE: B. Cofield
DE: B. Bowen
If the NFL worked like Madden this would work.

The situation right now is going to take a couple of years to fix, there are no free agents that are going to come here and turn this team around. They are going to have to find young, cheap talent, draft a lot of new players and develop them in order to be successful.
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:45 AM   #40
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So, was Alfred Morris injured?
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Old 12-02-2013, 02:09 AM   #41
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He has had four years to try to get better players... When the offense, defense, and special teams all suck after 4 years, who should be held accountable? The players that the coach selected, developed and put in position to fail or should all the blame go to the players even though the coaches failed them?
So you can't read the part that I said the coaches are not blameless?
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Old 12-02-2013, 02:09 AM   #42
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WTF was that on our last series where they moved the chains and said we had a first down. we run a play then they say its 4th down... how can they change that? down does decide what play you call and could have made a difference.. I know our play wasn't good but still that was highway robbery. refs need to be investigated. maybe Mara paid them
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Old 12-02-2013, 02:16 AM   #43
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Thats not moronic to say at all. Robert can thrive in any system. Alfred can run in any system. It's these dick fuck Shanahans that could end his career before it gets off the ground.
Yes. Any coach could do a better job than Kyle, b/c Kyle is a one of kind fucking 'tard to have his QB managed the way he does. Kyle leads te league in WR's in the backfield. Robert can be a QB if only Kyle were 86'd.
So you think that a new coach is going to make our guards and center block better, improve our ILBS and make our veteran WRs catch the ball? That's just laughable.

As I said before the coaches are not blameless and share the responsibility for this mess up. But people act like a new coach is going to make up for all the mediocrity we have.

Hell, with an average line and back up receivers, this would be a better team.
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Old 12-02-2013, 03:17 AM   #44
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My two cents...

Jim Haslet has to go, the Special Teams coach has to go, team needs a total rebuild of the offensive line, and all new defensive backs.

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I can agree with some of that. I don't think that we need all new defensive backs. Rambo and Amerson are legit imho and will be assets next year. The right side of the line needs to be upgraded. A new punter, a true #2 receiver and a replacement for Fletcher is in order...a complete offseason for the starting offense would be nice. Still a tall order with no 1st rounder, but it can be done.

I do think that given the bogus salary cap penalty and the injury to RG the team is still on the right track and will be MUCH better next year if they can fill (upgrade) some of these holes.

Oh, and the head official should be fined for that shit tonight though. Not that it decided the game (maybe)...
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Old 12-02-2013, 03:49 AM   #45
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id take incognito. he fits our style rg3 needs someone like that up front and we know hes not bullying trent lol

but i dont want Britt either.
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