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Old 12-28-2013, 05:20 PM   #526
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Adam S says O'Brien to Houston
Well shit. He was starting to look like the best candidate but it seems we're too late.
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Old 12-28-2013, 06:05 PM   #527
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Adam S says O'Brien to Houston
That means Lovie should be looking. Get him.
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Of course they will be! That is especially true of most media types. They somehow came to a consensus viewpoint on Dan Snyder and they have stuck to it for many years, regardless of any obvious changes that have occurred in the way he runs his franchise.

How good is the job? Well, to start with, there are only 32 NFL Head Coach jobs in the entire world! Only a small percentage of those jobs come open each year and the pool of jobs is more attractive in some years than in others.

This year, most of the job openings are not going to be very attractive, IMO. So, relatively speaking, the Redskins job would be more appealing this year than it would be in some other years. Because of this, I think that the Redskins will have many good candidates to choose from.
The Redskins HC job hasn't looked better in years, in my opinion.

1) It's been over decade since the QB position has looked any better. Any coaching candidate has to be optimistic about RG3's future cosidering he'll have a full off-season to prepare with the knee injury well in the rear view mirror. And if something happens to him, KC has proven to plenty capable. And both are VERY YOUNG and mold-able with long careers ahead of them. And even if KC isn't part of the future plans, he should translate into an extra draft pick.

2) 21 of this year's 22 starters won the division JUST LAST YEAR.

3) There will be plenty of opportunities to upgrade the talent level and add depth with w/ a full salary cap and every draft pick available except the first rounder. In the new coaches second season and beyond, he'll have a full draft to work with.

4) MONEY - say what you want about Snyder, but he will spend on coaches.

5) Any team that isn't searching for a starting QB is NOT in full rebuild mode. If the Skins can just get to being middle of the pack in Defense and Special Teams, they can contend for the division and both are possible in just a single off-season.

6) They'll be playing a last place schedule next year. Only 2 games, but everything helps.

7) The Skins play in the worst division in the league with 2 of the 4 team's starting QBs at the tail end of their careers.

8) Offensive talent - Garcon will likely end the season as the league leader in receptions, RG3, TW, 1600 yard rusher, dynamic TE coming back. Hank time is still in the early stages of his career and could possibly take the next step next year. I think the Offense is a top 5-10 unit AS-IS, but some O-line help and maybe an upgrade at WR2 with RG3's continued development can make this a perenniel top 5 Offense.

9) The DC area and fanbase. The Redskins are one of the most valuable sports franchises IN THE WORLD. This ain't Jacksonville or some city that has to compete with baseball or basketball. The Redskins are the king of DC sports and it's not even close. You win here and you're a GOD.
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Rich Tandler posted this on FB

So, the popular narrative is that the Redskins won't be able to find a good coach because they have been unstable at the position since Snyder has owned the team.

But it must be noted that since 1999 the Redskins have had six coaches not counting 3-game interim Terry Robiskie. The Cowboys have had five; so have the Lions (plus two interims). Is there any talk that those teams won't be able to find a coach if they decide to make a move? And don't tell me Snyder meddles and then look at Jerry Jones and say a coach would be more comfortable under him. And the Ford family does zip.

Head coach of the Redskins might not be the ideal job. But most of the ideal jobs aren't open and aren't going to open. The Redskins have a potential star QB in Robert Griffin III, a decent amount of cap room this year and a pretty well set up for the cap going forward, and an owner who will spend.

Is the Vikings job better with Adrian Peterson perhaps slowing down with a ton of money left on his contract and no solution to the QB position on the roster?

How about the Jets with their QB mess and circus atmosphere that makes DC look tame?

The Redskins job is not for everyone. Evidently Tony Dungy isn't interested but nobody really asked him, either. Some will think that other options are better. But even though it may not be the plum job of the NFL, it's better than others that will be open.

I think people will be surprised at the amount of interest there is in the job.
There is NO better option. Period. Houston has HUGE question marks at the QB position and until that position is settled, teams are in full-on rebuild mode. The chance to work with a young and dynamic QB that has elite potential should be enough all by itself. The reasons the Skins sucked so bad this year are extremely correctable and some, like the salary cap penalty, will work themselves out. Can't get much worse than 3-13 or 4-12, so the new coach has only upside ahead of him. Could be a great opportunity, in particular, for a college coach to make a name for himself.

People saying no one will want this job are ignorant. Only teams with crappy records look for new coaches, so they all appear to be bad jobs. The Skins HC position is as ideal as it gets.
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Adam S says O'Brien to Houston
Have fun with that. QB situation is a mess. Foster is broken down and Andre Johnson is on the back-end of his career. That's a re-build situation.
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Old 12-28-2013, 06:24 PM   #531
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All excellent point 44Deezel.

To all the Lovie doubters:

If memory serves the ownership in Chicago was ultra cheap through most Lovie's tenure. I remember myriad sports observers say he didn't have a lot to work with. It makes sense looking at the minimal FA signings Chicago brought in over the years. Peppers and cutler notable exceptions, though cutler was mostly about draft picks. And I thought peppers was a risky signing.

Anyway, everyone says Lovie's guys play their hearts out for him. He's no-nonsense and wise enough to not be moved around by the media BS. Even if this isn't his dream job I think he would be perfect for it if that makes sense.
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All excellent point 44Deezel.

To all the Lovie doubters:

If memory serves the ownership in Chicago was ultra cheap through most Lovie's tenure. I remember myriad sports observers say he didn't have a lot to work with. It makes sense looking at the minimal FA signings Chicago brought in over the years. Peppers and cutler notable exceptions, though cutler was mostly about draft picks. And I thought peppers was a risky signing.

Anyway, everyone says Lovie's guys play their hearts out for him. He's no-nonsense and wise enough to not be moved around by the media BS. Even if this isn't his dream job I think he would be perfect for it if that makes sense.
Even though I am not a big fan of bringing Lovie in, it is interesting to note that for all the praise Trestman has gotten, the Bears actually finished with a better record under Lovie Smith last year than they will finish this year.
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With O'Brien going to Houston I guess I like a Hue Jackson and Lovie Smith or Whisenhut + Russ Grim/ Rex Ryan combination. Mike Shanahan may be here next year with Kubiak.

$13 Million is a lot of money to lose.

Not to mention the $6mil that the skins would have to pay to Penn State for O'Brien and then the cost for his staff and him. Too much cost. He may not ever have been a option for the skins.
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All excellent point 44Deezel.

To all the Lovie doubters:

If memory serves the ownership in Chicago was ultra cheap through most Lovie's tenure. I remember myriad sports observers say he didn't have a lot to work with. It makes sense looking at the minimal FA signings Chicago brought in over the years. Peppers and cutler notable exceptions, though cutler was mostly about draft picks. And I thought peppers was a risky signing.

Anyway, everyone says Lovie's guys play their hearts out for him. He's no-nonsense and wise enough to not be moved around by the media BS. Even if this isn't his dream job I think he would be perfect for it if that makes sense.
Lovie was given the talent to get it done and he couldn't take that next step. I think Lovie would be a much worse hire than Shanny.
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Even though I am not a big fan of bringing Lovie in, it is interesting to note that for all the praise Trestman has gotten, the Bears actually finished with a better record under Lovie Smith last year than they will finish this year.
And the defense went to trash overnight. Peppers is a good example. Notorious for not giving 100% and certainly dogging it this year, but Lovie got the most out of him. And same goes for all his guys. It's not like he had elite talent everywhere but produced some elite defenses.

So, bring in an offensive genius under Lovie and let the fun begin.
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Why is everyone taking this obrien to Houston talk at face value? There is no reason for this report to come out, other than if it's not true and one of the parties involved is trying to push a third party in a certain direction. For example, Houston leaks this story to pressure Lovie smith into signing their best offer. Or, obriens camp leaks this story to get some other team to up their offer. If anything, this report makes me think it's highly unlikely obrien is close to a deal with Houston.
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Why is everyone taking this obrien to Houston talk at face value? There is no reason for this report to come out, other than if it's not true and one of the parties involved is trying to push a third party in a certain direction. For example, Houston leaks this story to pressure Lovie smith into signing their best offer. Or, obriens camp leaks this story to get some other team to up their offer. If anything, this report makes me think it's highly unlikely obrien is close to a deal with Houston.
Eh usually schefty is pretty spot on so I'm.trusting his word on this
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My fucking dog could do better than Shanahan did here.
I don't know the first thing about your dog, but I'm inclined to agree with this.
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Eh usually schefty is pretty spot on so I'm.trusting his word on this
Reports already been refuted. Texans are interviewing multiple candidates next week.
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Is Brian Kelly being talked about as a possibility? I would think it wouldn't be a bad thing
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