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Old 12-12-2013, 09:42 PM   #346
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Griffin has been horrible. Manning has not. Griffin is a diva who never accepts responsibility for his own failings. Manning is a true leader and takes responsibility for the failings of his teammates. This situation would never happen with manning because manning is a classy hall of fame player and rg3 is like a petulant child who feels he's entitled to respect he hasn't earned.
So basically RG3 in his second year learning while Manning is a vet and knows what to say. Lets remember Manning wasnt quite Manning in his first couple of years. Wasn't it his 4th year where he threw 23 interceptions?
Also Manning had deflected blame from himself in his younger days. Imagine if RG3 came out and said they had "protection issues" like Manning did after the Colts played Pitt a couple of years back. Hopefully RG3 will learn just like Manning did how to say the right things and be a better QB. Or maybe Cousins will instead.
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Griffin has been horrible. Manning has not. Griffin is a diva who never accepts responsibility for his own failings. Manning is a true leader and takes responsibility for the failings of his teammates. This situation would never happen with manning because manning is a classy hall of fame player and rg3 is like a petulant child who feels he's entitled to respect he hasn't earned.
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Old 12-12-2013, 09:55 PM   #348
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This is what i've asked to myself and to the members here many times.

What if Cousins simply is the better QB for this team?

Griffin had a great rookie season, props to him and much respect where it is deserved, but the NFL, and this team in particular have seen plenty of guys have one good year and then never again play at that elite level.

Griffin even if he is 100% healthy is not what he was before. He may never be again. It sure seems like the skins paid a ransom for a guy who might just be a bust. It won't be the first time it happened here and sadly won't be the last time.

The smartest thing to do, in my opinion, is to put the best QB on the field. If we all of a sudden look different and Cousins plays well, possibly even winning the final 3 games, then the stage should be set for a true competition next off-season. To not do that i think would be stupid. And we could still get picks should they decide to trade Griffin (although very unlikely).

I just wish we were a team where the best man had the job, compared to "we gave up our whole future for this guy, we must start him no mater what", or "he is one of the top paid players, he must start"....
How can you even make that assumption yet? Eli Manning has been proven for years now but this year he's going to end the year having more INTs than TDs, better put that bitch out to pasture, right? He'll NEVER have another good year.

There's absolutely no way you can assume RG3 won't be who he was. All signs point to him actually being ABLE to, but he needs 3 things 1) A better coach 2) Some better players and 3) Better mechanics and decision making.

Next year (and potentially 2015) is really the big year to tell whether or not Griff is NFL elite material.

Hell, I'm not even 100% against pulling RG3 and playing Cousins, but its WAY too early to talk about RG3 being a bust. Jesus, give the guy another healthy year and see what happens.
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Old 12-12-2013, 10:10 PM   #349
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So basically RG3 in his second year learning while Manning is a vet and knows what to say. Lets remember Manning wasnt quite Manning in his first couple of years. Wasn't it his 4th year where he threw 23 interceptions?
Also Manning had deflected blame from himself in his younger days. Imagine if RG3 came out and said they had "protection issues" like Manning did after the Colts played Pitt a couple of years back. Hopefully RG3 will learn just like Manning did how to say the right things and be a better QB. Or maybe Cousins will instead.
I'm not comparing 2nd year manning to 2nd year rg3. I'm comparing 2013 manning to 2013 rg3. We would not have this drama if we'd gotten manning.... However with the cap penalty I'm not sure how we could have anyways. Right now, I don't think rg3 has the respect of his coaches or teammates. He needs to grow up in this offseason if he wants to have a future in the league.
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So basically RG3 in his second year learning while Manning is a vet and knows what to say. Lets remember Manning wasnt quite Manning in his first couple of years. Wasn't it his 4th year where he threw 23 interceptions?
Also Manning had deflected blame from himself in his younger days. Imagine if RG3 came out and said they had "protection issues" like Manning did after the Colts played Pitt a couple of years back. Hopefully RG3 will learn just like Manning did how to say the right things and be a better QB. Or maybe Cousins will instead.
Plus no one would be whining about a lack of weapons. Manning would make his own weapons out of whoever they trotted out on the field with him.
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Old 12-12-2013, 10:34 PM   #352
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lol I don't get it.
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Plus no one would be whining about a lack of weapons. Manning would make his own weapons out of whoever they trotted out on the field with him.
Possibly, but Manning would have ran Shanahan out of town a year ago, opening the door to find better players.
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Griffin has been horrible. Manning has not. Griffin is a diva who never accepts responsibility for his own failings. Manning is a true leader and takes responsibility for the failings of his teammates. This situation would never happen with manning because manning is a classy hall of fame player and rg3 is like a petulant child who feels he's entitled to respect he hasn't earned.
Those are pretty harsh words about Griff because of one post game interview where he didnt say the rite things. I mean dont you think you are blowing things out of proportion just a little bit? When did he say he was entitled to respect? If Manning was 24 playing on a shit team put together by a stubborn shit coach maybe he would have appeared less classy. Just sayin,.....
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Shanahan is such a piece of shit. Again it just amazes me this kind of low character guy is still employed in pro football. Is there a franchise desperate enough to welcome Shanahan next year? Guess we'll all find out together lol.
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Shanahan is a genius and he is never wrong about quarterbacks!!!

“Let me say, when John Beck did come out [of college], I had him rated as the top quarterback coming out that year, and I didn’t even think it was close,” said Shanahan, who traded with Baltimore last August to get Beck. “I had a lot of confidence in John Beck when he came out in 2007. I evaluate the quarterbacks every year, and I do have confidence in John Beck. He was by far my No. 1 guy. I think the world of him.”

Shanahan has won one playoff victory in 14 years. Jesus fucking christ can we move on from this overrated self absorbed know it all? He fucking sucks now, and just cause he got lucky drafting running backs in the 6th and 7th round, everyone thinks he is a genius. If he was such a fucking genius, then why risk losing a stud like TD and ALF by letting 31 teams have them up for grabs for 6 straight rounds? He rode Elway to two superbowls, and after he retired, NOTHING. NOTHING, no postseason success, not even an AFC divisional game. Why the fuck is it so hard to see that this guy fucking sucks?
Very well said. Remember this is the genius who "staked his reputation that Beck would be an excellent starting QB".
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:16 PM   #358
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Why do people think Shanahan was lying 100% of the time...except when he talked about John Beck?
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I'm not comparing 2nd year manning to 2nd year rg3. I'm comparing 2013 manning to 2013 rg3. We would not have this drama if we'd gotten manning.... However with the cap penalty I'm not sure how we could have anyways. Right now, I don't think rg3 has the respect of his coaches or teammates. He needs to grow up in this offseason if he wants to have a future in the league.
I don't hear anyone with inside knowledge saying this. RG needs to concentrate on football and prepare for next season.
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Why do people think Shanahan was lying 100% of the time...except when he talked about John Beck?
.....and his reasoning behind benching Griff.
Edit: what about the whole Dr Andrews clearing him to go back into the game against Baltimore?
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