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Old 12-13-2013, 09:28 AM   #421
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Tebow lovers are going hard against RG3 on the comments. They are still upset about Tebow.
Such a great line, just like the one Obama and his administration uses when someone does not agree with his policies...."your a racist."
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Such a great line, just like the one Obama and his administration uses when someone does not agree with his policies...."your a racist."
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Old 12-13-2013, 09:34 AM   #423
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In fairness Elway did the same thing. He struck out until Shanny came along. Looking at the winning percentages without each other though Shanny benefited more from Elway than Elway did with Shanny.
I wouldnt say he struck out, I mean he was well on his way to the hall of fame before those superbowls. Imo TD had a hell of alot to do with both of them winning it all.
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Such a great line, just like the one Obama and his administration uses when someone does not agree with his policies...."your a racist."
I think most of Obamas administration are white.....
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Old 12-13-2013, 09:37 AM   #425
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I honestly dont see how benching RGIII now is a bad thing

1) Why risk getting him hurt and missing out on the entire offseason program. This is even more important if Shanahan is fired and we have a new coaching staff. In fact, i wouldnt be surprised if it was SNYDER behind benching RGIII for this reason.

2) If Snyder and whoever our coach is next year believe RGIII is our franchise QB and will stick with him no matter what, then why NOT put more film out there on Kirk Cousins? If he performs well, it increases the trade market for him. Thats good for the team

3) Lets say it turns out Cousins is clearly far inferior to RGIII (i dont think he is). If Cousins plays poorly, it kills any QB controversy going in the off-season.

4) If, as i believe, Shanahan (and the players on the team) dont like RGIII and feel the franchise is better with Cousins, this is the chance to prove it. Its a losing season. WHy not? What if we go 3-0 over these final three games and Cousins is noticeably and dramatically better in this system than RGIII. Then Shanahan will have shown Snyder he was right. We keep Shanahan, keep Cousins, and trade RGIII.

The only downside to playing cousins is hurting RGIIIs feelings. To be honest, i dont care. Thus far, RGIII has proven himself to be a diva and a whiny baby who feels entitled to respect and special treatment he hasnt earned. If he cant deal with this situation, then he doesnt have the mental makeup to succeed as an NFL QB.
100% agree.

I hate putting labels on QB's who just come out of college. RG3 was a drafted QB. Thats it. Yes the team gave up the farm to get him under the understanding he was good enough to be the QB possibly for years to come. But if he turns out to be another Jason Campbell then I don't see him as a "Franchise" QB. I see him as a bonefied back up.

I hope RG3 pans out, the team gave up enough to get him, but "IF" Cousins plays better and for whatever this coaching staff deems Cousins the guy then at least we got a QB on the cheap. Then the team can look to trade RG3 for as many draft picks or players they can get for him. "IF" he's so awesome then I'm sure some other team will give up their farm to get him ... right?
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So, you think that Griff's health was not in question in the Seattle game, or the Ravens game, or in weeks one through 6, but now it is a good time to "preserve" him?
Leave all the weird lunch room banter examples out of it and just answer the question - lol.
In answer to your question: I've said, and still think, Cousins should have started until RG3 was healthy. I understand as long as we could make a run like last season, we wanted RG3 to play and hoped he'd do well. He hasn't done bad, it's just obvious he's not at 100%. I'm undecided on whether it would be better for him now to get more live reps, or not risk further injury this season.

So answer me this question, punch: Why is there all this weird lunchroom banter (about Shanny's motives) dominating the board discussion now, and not back at the weeks one through 6?
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I think most of Obamas administration are white.....
TO BE CLEAR....

I am not calling anyone a "Racist." and it does not matter what majority of race works for Obama. All I'm saying is anyone or organization who opposes Obama or his policies quickly gets labeled a "Racist." I've seen it over and over and over again. Even though the person being labeled is not a racist. It's just a tactic used to shut up the opposition.
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TO BE CLEAR....

I am not calling anyone a "Racist." and it does not matter what majority of race works for Obama. All I'm saying is anyone or organization who opposes Obama or his policies quickly gets labeled a "Racist." I've seen it over and over and over again. Even though the person being labeled is not a racist. It's just a tactic used to shut up the opposition.
...Racist.
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Some people agree with it, but that doesn't mean they are backing Shanahan's rationale. Some people just want to see Cousins, or they think RG should be benched for performance, or they don't want to risk him getting hurt.
Currently the thread poll agrees with Shanny. Debating the merits is cool, and people here have made a lot of good points for and against. People arguing over just rationale is lunch room talk, IMO.

I thought the rationale Shanny said in his presser was that he didn't want RG3 getting hurt. And some people agree with that, I think. (I'm torn, sure playing in the NFL any regular position means getting blasted, but reps would be good for RG3.)
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Please knock off any metaphors alluding to politics and the so-called race card. THANK YOU!
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Currently the thread poll agrees with Shanny. Debating the merits is cool, and people here have made a lot of good points for and against. People arguing over just rationale is lunch room talk, IMO.

I thought the rationale Shanny said in his presser was that he didn't want RG3 getting hurt. And some people agree with that, I think. (I'm torn, sure playing in the NFL any regular position means getting blasted, but reps would be good for RG3.)
If you're taking the poll results at face value and ignoring the discussion, call it lunch room talk or whatever, but you're missing the point if that's what you're doing.

I for one don't agree with him sitting, I think he needs the reps and he's far from the only guy out there struggling, but a small part of me is glad there's no risk in him getting hurt now.

And I still think Shanny is a rat bastard who could really care less about his health and there are personal motives at play. If he really was concerned about his health he would have sat him down to start the season.
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At this point, I don't believe one damn word that comes out of Shanny's mouth; especially, when he says that he was lying before but he's telling the truth now.

I wanted RGIII to sit but it's not because of any reason given by Shanahan. I just didn't want Shanny's idiot son to get any more chances to call plays (such as the ridiculous triple option) that might cause RGIII to be reinjured.

Now, I'm relieved that RGIII's health will be preserved until the new coaches are in place. Hopefully, he will be used properly in the new system.
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If you're taking the poll results at face value and ignoring the discussion, call it lunch room talk or whatever, but you're missing the point if that's what you're doing.

I for one don't agree with him sitting, I think he needs the reps and he's far from the only guy out there struggling, but a small part of me is glad there's no risk in him getting hurt now.

And I still think Shanny is a rat bastard who could really care less about his health and there are personal motives at play. If he really was concerned about his health he would have sat him down to start the season.
Yeah, I'm just looking at the poll numbers. And there's been some good discussion here. And RG3 hasn't been bad, just not the superman we saw last season.

I take your word Shanny's a bastard. So could he have played RG3 to start the season just to try getting back to the playoffs, and now that the season's over there's no reason to? That's what benching him once we're mathematically eliminated says to me.
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