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Old 12-13-2013, 11:15 PM   #481
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Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday

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My prediction: About a nanosecond after the season ends, Snyder will tell Shanny that he needs to get as far away from Ashburn/DC as possible, including possibly the international space station. And Shanny will feel that he'll happily do so and looks forward to cashing a $7MM check.
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Who here actually believes Shanny and DS have a good relationship?
LOL. I know it seems very unrealistic at this point, but is anyone other than me actually wishing this trainwreck wasn't so bad for the Redskins? (regardless of whether shanny's fired for 3 out of 4 miserable seasons?)
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:43 PM   #482
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I won't be watching. F this team. Specifically, F Shanahan.
Damn Matty, what are you going to do? I mean reality bites, but c'mon at least learn to have some fun with the site when things are bad, especially since they usually are very bad. Why do you think I post some crazy ass opinions or off the wall stuff? Can't keep bellowing the same tired mantras like the HC sucks, the players suck, the owner sucks, or the RG III man crush crap etc. Expand your horizons!!!!!!
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:46 PM   #483
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Make that a second round pick and a player.
We will be lucky to get a 2nd rounder, more like a 3rd, unless Cousins comes off like the second coming of Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers. Two words for you bud, Matt Flynn. Teams are going to be wary at shelling out cash or high draft picks for a backup for awhile. Did you see Flynn on Thanksgiving Day? Everyone in here is banking on Cousins garnering a good trade, but I am not sure if I was a needy GM of another team that I would want to have anything to do with a former Skin at this point.
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:54 PM   #484
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I think it is what it is at this point. Cooley coming out and saying it is slightly different because he brings some validity to it.

Give the kid a healthy offseason to study and work on his mechanics and we see a good III next year. Last year all we ever heard from everyone (Cooley included) was Robert was a leader, a great locker room guy, humble, and the best QB they have had in a while.

Griffin will use this whole season to motivate him as well as his own personal drive to have an enormous impact on our 2014 season.

I hope cousins does well, it bodes for good value and a possible one or two extra picks in April for the new regime.
Nobody is going to give you two picks for a backup, and if they did they would be a mid rounder and a low rounder that probably wouldn't make the squad. You base Cousin's worth on 3 games worth of work from last season, emphasis on last season. Matt Flynn and others have wrecked the market for second string QBs. If a team needs a starter or backup, they can just draft one. Also, what if Cousins bombs in his 3 game stint? His trade value would evaporate immediately. Too many guys in here are banking on something that is far from a sure thing. Also, if Cousins does do very well, are you going to get rid of him and keep Grossman? What if RG III truly is a bust? Then you have no viable QB and another good 3-5 seasons of shitball to watch or bitch about!
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LOL. I know it seems very unrealistic at this point, but is anyone other than me actually wishing this trainwreck wasn't so bad for the Redskins? (regardless of whether shanny's fired for 3 out of 4 miserable seasons?)
No were all very happy with the current state of affairs.
I still believe cap space, new staff, another draft, and a healthy RG-3 can go places. As far as i can see we still will be playin in the god forsaken nfc east next year. Just gotta be in it to win it.
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Old 12-14-2013, 12:01 AM   #486
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Sorry guys at being Mr. pessimist as usual, but too many variables here to say if we would get good value for a Cousins trade, and if we should even consider trading Cousins at all. Some of you are banking at RG III getting healthy and all of a sudden getting a great work ethic and suddenly being coachable. Sorry folks, but those attributes are usually present when the players come into the league. Many have said how Shanny might have "Ramseyed" RG III, but Snyder is the one who has wined and dined the kid, and obviously has sided with Robert in the feud with Shanny. Nobody with a brain is going to want to be the HC of the Skins, unless Snyder offers him the moon.
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No were all very happy with the current state of affairs.
I still believe cap space, new staff, another draft, and a healthy RG-3 can go places. As far as i can see we still will be playin in the god forsaken nfc east next year. Just gotta be in it to win it.
The roster is very weak, especially in terms of depth. One more draft isn't going to cover up the deficiencies on the team, even with cap space for FA signings.
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Old 12-14-2013, 12:52 AM   #488
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Nobody is going to give you two picks for a backup, and if they did they would be a mid rounder and a low rounder that probably wouldn't make the squad. You base Cousin's worth on 3 games worth of work from last season, emphasis on last season. Matt Flynn and others have wrecked the market for second string QBs. If a team needs a starter or backup, they can just draft one. Also, what if Cousins bombs in his 3 game stint? His trade value would evaporate immediately. Too many guys in here are banking on something that is far from a sure thing. Also, if Cousins does do very well, are you going to get rid of him and keep Grossman? What if RG III truly is a bust? Then you have no viable QB and another good 3-5 seasons of shitball to watch or bitch about!
I was never banking on anything. I know in the last few years Allen has gotten decent value for guys.

All I was saying in a nut shell, is great if he does well and oh well there is a fourth round backup On the team who plays like a fourth round backup. Don't generalize me into a category who blindly sees cousins as having some high value.
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Sorry guys at being Mr. pessimist as usual, but too many variables here to say if we would get good value for a Cousins trade, and if we should even consider trading Cousins at all. Some of you are banking at RG III getting healthy and all of a sudden getting a great work ethic and suddenly being coachable. Sorry folks, but those attributes are usually present when the players come into the league. Many have said how Shanny might have "Ramseyed" RG III, but Snyder is the one who has wined and dined the kid, and obviously has sided with Robert in the feud with Shanny. Nobody with a brain is going to want to be the HC of the Skins, unless Snyder offers him the moon.
I doubt that anything you posted above is remotely credible.

1. Cousins has value. Right now, some GM's think he's worth a 2nd Round pick.

2. What person of any credibility has ever said that RGIII has a poor work ethic and isn't coachable?

3. What evidence is there to support a feud between RGIII and Shanny and that Snyder has sided with RGIII in this supposed feud?

4. Plenty of good coaches will want the Redskins job. I think that Snyder has learned to keep his distance for the most part and that the new HC will have sufficient latitude to do his job. He will also have one big $20,000,000 reason to take the job.
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Sorry guys at being Mr. pessimist as usual, but too many variables here to say if we would get good value for a Cousins trade, and if we should even consider trading Cousins at all. Some of you are banking at RG III getting healthy and all of a sudden getting a great work ethic and suddenly being coachable. Sorry folks, but those attributes are usually present when the players come into the league. Many have said how Shanny might have "Ramseyed" RG III, but Snyder is the one who has wined and dined the kid, and obviously has sided with Robert in the feud with Shanny. Nobody with a brain is going to want to be the HC of the Skins, unless Snyder offers him the moon.
Wow....
That is a great deal of information reconciled from....nothing? Conclusions drawn from hyperbole, rhetoric and......bombast.
Very informative....
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RG has no work ethic and isn't coachable.

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Cooley: Cousins a better pocket passer than RGIII

Don't recall if this was posted, but damn this is brutal. Cooley telling it like it is.
The problem in evaluating and making judgement with RG3 on is he a pocket passer is their hasnt been a consistent pocket to throw in all year.
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They probably need to move 75% of their starters to backup positions, 30 plus new players minimum. Can't do that giving it all to a couple free agency show ponys.
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Sorry guys at being Mr. pessimist as usual, but too many variables here to say if we would get good value for a Cousins trade, and if we should even consider trading Cousins at all. Some of you are banking at RG III getting healthy and all of a sudden getting a great work ethic and suddenly being coachable. Sorry folks, but those attributes are usually present when the players come into the league. Many have said how Shanny might have "Ramseyed" RG III, but Snyder is the one who has wined and dined the kid, and obviously has sided with Robert in the feud with Shanny. Nobody with a brain is going to want to be the HC of the Skins, unless Snyder offers him the moon.
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Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday

So the sentiment i'm seeing here - Have redskins nation gave up on RG3?

I mean it seems factual that he may have some character issues, might have a problem accepting blame and/or taking responsibility, and it seems that he has a tight relationship with team owner.

Are these problems too great to overcome? It seems alot of people are throwing dirt on Griffin right now, and he seems to be doing very little to try and change any one's opinion of him....
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