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Old 12-11-2013, 12:11 PM   #106
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In hindsight, when you look at how Shanny handled Albert Haynesworth, Fred Davis, McNabb, and now Robert -- this guy isn't a player's coach. More specifically, players with big personas and egos. Just wasn't a good fit from the beginning.
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Old 12-11-2013, 12:17 PM   #108
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We have Atlanta which was a playoff team last yr and not really terrible this year, Dallas, and the Giants left to play.

Again what if: Cousins plays well, looks good in a traditional West Coast Offense, and the team wins all 3 games? would that be good enough reason to keep MS one more yr, start Cousins next yr, and only bring someone new in at DC? Then between the draft and the $36 mill upgrade the OL, WR, and defense side of the ball?
If Robert can't outscore his own defense, Kirk won't be able to either.

Robert's also running for his life and sometimes getting nailed a second after receiving the snap. I don't think Kirk is any quicker or a better escape artist.

As great as this line seems to be at run blocking, they're as equally bad at pass protection. It doesn't make sense, but I don't think any QB could succeed behind Tyler Polumbus and this line.


If Shanahan's real objective here is keeping a young QB and team asset healthy as the team struggles, we should be playing Rex Grossman the rest of the way.

I bet we'll see him before the year is over, probably when Polumbus lets Osi Umenyiora run right past him and concusses Kirk this week.
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Worst possible thing a team can do is quit. Thanks guys.
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Worst possible thing a team can do is quit. Thanks guys.
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Old 12-11-2013, 12:32 PM   #111
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Fair enough. I thought you were saying Kirk Cousins and Eli were the same type of player.
I'm not saying he is or isn't. What I am saying is RG3's style is not like Eli's and Eli's style is not like RG3's. I'd like to have a QB like Eli, Rodgers, Peyton, etc. etc. I don't have to have a QB who is a running QB, I just need one who can avoid the rush.
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Calling RG-3 QB-3 on the radio. Can we as a fan base just pony up the 7 mill yo get Shanny(who I am proud to say I have hated on several times even dating back to last year) the hell out of Washington now?
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I'm not saying he is or isn't. What I am saying is RG3's style is not like Eli's and Eli's style is not like RG3's. I'd like to have a QB like Eli, Rodgers, Peyton, etc. etc. I don't have to have a QB who is a running QB, I just need one who can avoid the rush.
Well you could also be patient and see if a full and healthy offseason, a "real" headcoach and OC, a halfway decent O-line, and another WR can make Griff great again. You know there have been other great qb's who run alot. Steve Young, Fran Tarkenton, Steve Mcnair, Roger Staubach, John Elway - were they good qb's? Without their legs none of them would be who they are today. Griff needs to work on his mechanics, not throwing off his back foot, etc and he can be great too. You make it seem like he is Mike Vick, and he is not.
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If Robert can't outscore his own defense, Kirk won't be able to either.

Robert's also running for his life and sometimes getting nailed a second after receiving the snap. I don't think Kirk is any quicker or a better escape artist.

As great as this line seems to be at run blocking, they're as equally bad at pass protection. It doesn't make sense, but I don't think any QB could succeed behind Tyler Polumbus and this line.


If Shanahan's real objective here is keeping a young QB and team asset healthy as the team struggles, we should be playing Rex Grossman the rest of the way.

I bet we'll see him before the year is over, probably when Polumbus lets Osi Umenyiora run right past him and concusses Kirk this week.
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Calling RG-3 QB-3 on the radio. Can we as a fan base just pony up the 7 mill yo get Shanny(who I am proud to say I have hated on several times even dating back to last year) the hell out of Washington now?
Setting Shanahan on fire > Firing Shanahan
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Thsibsi all about power, has nothing to do with football. If you didn't want RG3 then do''t draft RG3 real simple. If you are in charge of personel which is Shannahan's title then you don't draft RG3, if you didn't want RG3. It's about power. Shanny coaching sucks, defense sucks special teams suck. None of that has to do with RG3.
I just think there is a lot WE fans don't know. Everyone her acts and assumes MS sat back and said "I want RG3." Then wrote on the draft slip RG3, then walked it all the way up to the podium for the announcement, "RG3." and now after 2 years has decided RG3 is not our guy and lets throw RG3 under the bus for good measure.

Is there a possibility RG3 was Snyder's guy? Any chance Snyder stepped up yet again and said I want him on this team? Remember RG3 was garnering more press then Luck. I guess what I'm trying to say is this would not be the first time Snyder stepped in and meddled with the team. WE all Know that. I'm not saying thats what happened but why go out and draft another QB so high if RG3 is your guy?

Your right this team does suck. Defense especially. If that side of the ball could just hold teams to under 25 points we would have won a lot of games this year. It didn't happen. As far as coaching I'm not going to argue with you too much, this team sucked the first two years and most HC's have a plan, you either draft your QB and build around him or you build a team and then draft the QB. Ms looked to be doing the latter, but the OL has not gotten better in 4 yrs, only 1 upgrade a WR, and the defense has been digressing all 4 yrs. But ...as my best excuse to defend Shanny, you don't go out and buy a Nascar car and drive it through the city. Their not made for stop signs and stop lights and stop and go traffic. So you re route yourself so your car can hit the open road, more straight aways, less traffic lights. I think this is what MS did. He changed his system to fit RG3. Maybe butchered his system all together for RG3. and now that RG3 can't run as fast as he did last yr because of the brace then all those designed run plays won't fool defenses anymore so you have to change the scheme up again. I just think MS has done the best he could with what he had, QB wise. The building of the OL and other spots I blame him big time. Piss poor job.
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I basically never agree with you, but when I do...it's NOW!!!!
LOL. I agree too but I'd be too afraid Sexy Rexy would do too well and we all would be wondering WTF? LOL
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Setting Shanahan on fire > Firing Shanahan
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Look RG3 is the fan favorite I get that. RG3 must have been DS's boy he wanted I get that. but what if MS can prove that RG3 has trouble reading defenses? Cousins shows better as a pocket passer and reading defenses? Do we still just trade away Cousins, keep the fan favorite RG3, and move on?
There is next to no chance of this move being successful, but if it is, it would be an even bigger indictment of Shannahan since he gave up the farm to get Griffin. The only thing that it would prove is that he should have no control over personnel, which he has already proven at this point.

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Old 12-11-2013, 01:07 PM   #120
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I've been anti-Shanahan for years so this is no surprise to me. But Snyder and Griffin and the rest of this dysfunctional mess is all equally to blame. As are the media and the fans.

Despite obvious issues and flaws and the history of the past 20 years, especially under Snyder, fans continued to shell out money to buy tickets, merchandise, etc and keep this raging dumpster fire going.

Nothing is going to change anytime remotely soon. Get used to five wins or less per season for probably a period of several years. It's really sad how this once proud, successful franchise has become one of the worst in pro sports.
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