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Old 01-10-2014, 12:14 PM   #16
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Let it go. He was drunk and said something stupid.

It's only a big deal because of he media. He put it behind him, the team did, and he had a great year for one of our biggest rivals. I'd love to get him away from Chip Kelly. He's better than any of our WRs aside from Garcon.
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Old 01-10-2014, 12:17 PM   #17
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Hopefully Allen goes by his reputation and is cheap and doesn't try to make any splashes. Just sign players for depth. Maybe get a cheap starter.
This I can't quite comprehend, Why would a 3-10 team just be looking for depth? We have some depth. It's quality starters that we don't have at many positions.

We have no safeties.
We have no Offensive RT.
We have no #2 Receiver.
We need upgrades at OG and C.
We need at least one starter at ILB.
We need a shut down CB.
We need a PR/KR.
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Old 01-10-2014, 12:20 PM   #18
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This I can't quite comprehend, Why would a 3-10 team just be looking for depth? We have some depth. It's quality starters that we don't have at many positions.

We have no safeties.
We have no Offensive RT.
We have no #2 Receiver.
We need upgrades at OG and C.
We need at least one starter at ILB.
We need a shut down CB.
We need a PR/KR.
That's a pretty good rundown on our needs.
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Old 01-10-2014, 12:21 PM   #19
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Punter and d tackle will be the biggest need if we go 4-3
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Old 01-10-2014, 12:25 PM   #20
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I'd love to talk FA but I have no idea which of these guys might be available or how much each of them might cost. Can somebody give me some idea of how much we'll have to spend and what we might be able to get for that amount (e.g., a starting safety ($x), a starting OT ($x), etc.)? Thanks!
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Old 01-10-2014, 12:29 PM   #21
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That's a pretty good rundown on our needs.
Thanks. I forgot Punter. Scary, ain't it?
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Old 01-10-2014, 12:29 PM   #22
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This I can't quite comprehend, Why would a 3-10 team just be looking for depth? We have some depth. It's quality starters that we don't have at many positions.

We have no safeties.
We have no Offensive RT.
We have no #2 Receiver.
We need upgrades at OG and C.
We need at least one starter at ILB.
We need a shut down CB.
We need a PR/KR.
Because using free agency to find starters and to build your team doesn't really work. Redskins have to draft well and build a foundation of starters than they can go and use free agency to find a starter or two.
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Old 01-10-2014, 12:53 PM   #23
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Because using free agency to find starters and to build your team doesn't really work. Redskins have to draft well and build a foundation of starters than they can go and use free agency to find a starter or two.
I don't see any reason why the process needs to be linear, starting with the draft. We could certainly find a young starter in FA, then draft to fill another position, or vice versa. I think it can work both ways.

The key is to not pay big dollars for older FA's. Pierre Garcon is an example of a good FA signing. The Skins signed him while he was still on the way up and they should get the full benefit of his contract.
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Because using free agency to find starters and to build your team doesn't really work. Redskins have to draft well and build a foundation of starters than they can go and use free agency to find a starter or two.
Vinnys not here any more.
It works for other teams.....
We need upgrades....now
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Old 01-10-2014, 12:58 PM   #25
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some players i wouldn't mind having around
  • eric decker
  • danario alexander
  • hakeem nicks
  • devin hester
  • jimmy graham
  • any of those top 15 tackles
  • tyson jackson
  • brandon spikes
  • aqib talib
  • deangelo hall
  • aaron ross
  • any of those top 20 safeties
  • donnie jones
I wouldn't mind having Jimmy Graham around either. LOL.

From the FA list, I want us to pursue Brent Grimes, Jairus Byrd, Jon Asamoah, and Ted Ginn Jr. Obviously punter is a need to, so maybe the best punter available.
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Old 01-10-2014, 01:03 PM   #26
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Vinnys not here any more.
It works for other teams.....
We need upgrades....now
Or the Skins can upgrade these positions through the draft and show some patience and not try to go for the immediate fix.

Tampa Bay, Miami, and Buffalo all tried to use free agency for the immediate fix. It did not work.

The only position that you can have immediate improvement through free agency is QB. Is Manning or Brees out there? If not there is no need to sign a player to a 6 year 70 million dollar deal because you want to build your team like Madden, instead of building an NFL team.
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I don't see any reason why the process needs to be linear, starting with the draft. We could certainly find a young starter in FA, then draft to fill another position, or vice versa. I think it can work both ways.

The key is to not pay big dollars for older FA's. Pierre Garcon is an example of a good FA signing. The Skins signed him while he was still on the way up and they should get the full benefit of his contract.
I have no problem signing a player to a low risk deal.

I have a problem offering any player a 50 million deal believing that one player will drastically change an outcome.
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Old 01-10-2014, 01:10 PM   #28
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WR and TEs list is loaded. the problem is a lot of these guys will be resigned with their current teams before hitting the market. some nice OTs too. that might be the most important upgrade to get this offseason. i'd like a OG too, but that crop looks terrible... maybe grab one in the draft.

kenny britt would be a nice low key WR add, he'd instantly be the #2 and should be good price/performance wise.

as far as DBs, tillman/byrd sounds soo nice right now. it does suck that 3 of our 4 top LBs are FAs :/ i think we should try to keep them.
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Old 01-10-2014, 01:11 PM   #29
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Hakeem Nicks please.
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Let it go. He was drunk and said something stupid.

It's only a big deal because of he media. He put it behind him, the team did, and he had a great year for one of our biggest rivals. I'd love to get him away from Chip Kelly. He's better than any of our WRs aside from Garcon.
If he came out and said he was gay would you move on from it? Probably not. He can stay with the Eagles for all I care; small minded bigot.
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