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Old 02-21-2014, 01:41 PM   #406
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Bruce Allen said that he wanted to add 20 new players to the team. That is a very large number of players to add in one offseason. If he indeed adds that many new players, more than half of them would probably be UFA's. That's going to require alot of cap space, which makes me wonder if signing Orakpo is a good idea for a team that finished 3-13 last season and is planning to make alot of personnel changes during the offseason.

I doubt that the Skins can or even want to sign Orakpo to a multi-year deal. So, to me, the only question for the Skins about Orakpo is "Can we improve the defense more by tagging Orakpo for $11M or by signing two mid-tier FA's to more favorable, longer-term contracts?".

The Skins need alot of help on defense but we have Jackson and Jenkins at OLB, so the cupboard isn't bare at that position. I'm starting to wonder if the Skins might just let Orakpo walk in favor of picking up two good players at other positions.
Jackson is a FA also, so technically we only have Jenkins. Jackson may be the better overall OLB, but still cant rush the passer as good as Orakpo. So it depends on what they want from the OLB's as to who to resign. If they are finally going to let the OLB's be a true pass rusher, as some reports have said, then Orakpo is the better choice. If they are only going to let them rush 60% of the time, then Jackson may be the better choice and will be cheaper.

The salary cap is going up in future years more that it has in the past. The new TV contracts go into effect this year and will hit the cap next year, and according to reports, those TV contracts are much larger than the ones that just expired (Plus the addition of one more since they recently signed a Thursday night contract). Some of that money has already been used up since it was brought forward to keep the cap from going down the last 2 or 3 years but the cap is still expected to make some jumps in the next few years. 11 mil for a player with a 120 mil cap is quite different than 11 mil with a 150 mil cap. The better GM's will have this in mind when signing long term contracts. Signing Orakpo to a 5 year contract at 11 mil per may be a steal in a couple of years depending on how high the cap goes.

Orakpo is going to get that since salaries are going to be going up as the cap does. Its actually probably better for Orakpo to be tagged and hit FA again next year where the price tag for a pass rusher will probably go up.
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:07 PM   #407
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Skinzman, you made some very good points that put things in perspective for me. Particulary about how the Skins plan to use Orakpo and the future of the salary cap.

BTW, I was aware that Jackson is a FA. I just assumed that we'd be able to resign him at a reasonable rate. Then again, if he slips up just once and gets caught, he could be facing an indefinite suspension. Maybe I shouldn't count on him so much.
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:07 AM   #408
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Ok if Denver cuts Champ and he doesnt retire.. imo i think hed be a good DEPTH signing and a great player like that finish his career where he started. Let em coach up Amerson a little bit give em a few tricks. Thoughts?
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:38 AM   #409
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Ok if Denver cuts Champ and he doesnt retire.. imo i think hed be a good DEPTH signing and a great player like that finish his career where he started. Let em coach up Amerson a little bit give em a few tricks. Thoughts?
Nah! I'd pass on him.
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Ok if Denver cuts Champ and he doesnt retire.. imo i think hed be a good DEPTH signing and a great player like that finish his career where he started. Let em coach up Amerson a little bit give em a few tricks. Thoughts?
No way that Bailey ever signs with the Skins, or that the Skins would even offer him a contract.

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Ok if Denver cuts Champ and he doesnt retire.. imo i think hed be a good DEPTH signing and a great player like that finish his career where he started. Let em coach up Amerson a little bit give em a few tricks. Thoughts?
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Old 02-22-2014, 10:45 AM   #412
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LOL, that was funny.
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Old 02-22-2014, 10:52 AM   #413
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Yeah... Champ has gotten old. It happens to us all.

Does anyone know the franchise tag deadline?
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Old 02-22-2014, 11:41 AM   #414
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March 3rd if anyone was wondering the deadline.
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Old 02-22-2014, 11:46 AM   #415
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A list of FA's I hope we take a look at:

Jeremy Maclin
James Jones
Kenny Brit
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Old 02-22-2014, 11:55 AM   #416
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A list of FA's I hope we take a look at:

Jeremy Maclin
James Jones
Kenny Brit
Anthony Collins (knows Jay Gruden)
Ryan Harris (get for cheap, hope Tom Compton steps up)
Michael Johnson
Linval Joseph
Terence Cody
Brandon Spikes
Keenan Robinson (hope he stays healthy and shows up)
Taylor Mays (dumb it down, blitzing Safety/ILB)

Just to name a few.
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LOL, that was funny.
Yea maybe your right. Game mighta passed him by.
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Old 02-23-2014, 04:20 AM   #418
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champ and danny aren't super friends, so i doubt that happens.
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Old 02-23-2014, 07:48 AM   #419
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Rak and Jackson, if we let Jackson go he will be another Celmons and will be missed like big Lo.
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Rak and Jackson, if we let Jackson go he will be another Celmons and will be missed like big Lo.
I think you have a point on this one. I'm not too concerned with what happens if we don't resign Orakpo, you know his upside and what he can be as a pass rusher for another team. He is a "light" rush end with the potential to have about 10 sacks per yr.

With Jackson, his potential as a OLB has just been scratched. He's on every list of top free agent OLBs.
He was a 3 down backer, made plays in coverage, looked instinctual in the field, and there wasn't a considerable drop off in position play when he played the whole yr. Sacks were down but he made plays in other ways.

So, if you let him walk, you are still letting "one of yours" go via free agency.

Value is what the Skins need to evaluate in making the right decision on this one. It's possible they could keep them both but that would be very costly for one position.
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