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Old 05-08-2014, 09:57 AM   #361
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Old 05-08-2014, 10:10 AM   #362
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I don't want to start an argument but Manzeil is not as fast as RG3 2012. That speed made Kyles offense work.
I think Manziel would have no problem running it in the NFL. He's not as fast as RG3 but he's still plenty enough of a running threat where the defense would have to respect him. Like Griffin, he's simply not built like Cam Newton and doesn't protect himself. I doubt he'd last very long.
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Old 05-08-2014, 10:20 AM   #363
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I don't want to start an argument but Manzeil is not as fast as RG3 2012. That speed made Kyles offense work.
I think Kyle is more the traditional passer mold preference. Manzeil doesnt fit that.
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I think Kyle is more the traditional passer mold preference. Manzeil doesnt fit that.
Neither did RG3 but he had arguably the best rookie season ever for a QB.

I think Kyle has shown the ability to work with different types of QBs.
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:31 AM   #365
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I think it has to do with a complete team as opposed to just a qb and an OC. Whether its Kyle with Jonny Football or RG-3 or whoever. You could have an OC coaching up his dream QB and still win 3 games.
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Old 05-08-2014, 01:24 PM   #366
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Would you do the following deal with Cleveland?

When it's time for Cleveland to pick at 1/26, if there are still one or two players that the Skins grade very highly available (for example, a player such as C.J. Mosley, Hasean Clinton-Dix, or Zach Martin), would you offer them our 2/3 pick and Cousins in order to move up and take the player we want? That would set Cousins' value at approximately 3/25.

Edit: I erroneously typed that we'd trade our 3/2 pick in my original post. I meant to type that we would trade our 2/3 pick. My apologies to all.
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Old 05-08-2014, 01:32 PM   #367
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Would you do the following deal with Cleveland?

When it's time for Cleveland to pick at 1/26, if there are still one or two players that the Skins grade very highly available (for example, a player such as C.J. Mosley, Hasean Clinton-Dix, or Zach Martin), would you offer them our 3/2 pick and Cousins in order to move up and take the player we want? That would set Cousins' value at approximately 3/25.
So we trade out of the third round but get the #26 pick? Heck yeah I take that deal. 3/25 is a reasonable value for Cousins.
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So we trade out of the third round but get the #26 pick? Heck yeah I take that deal. 3/25 is a reasonable value for Cousins.
Lotus, I meant to type 2/3 instead of 3/2, so it would be our second round pick. I apologize for my error.
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Old 05-08-2014, 01:54 PM   #369
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No to our second round pick plus cousins. No way. 4th plus cousins... To move up 8 spots, that's the most I'd give. F that.
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Re: Cousins Open to Trade.

Didn't know where to put this, but a nice graphic stat for those who like that kinda thing:

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Re: Cousins Open to Trade.

from that, 28 of the 32 teams have invested at least 1 top 3 round pick in a qb in the last 10 years. Teams that haven't:

Dallas
New Orleans
Chicago
Houston

Miami has spent picks in 4 years searching for a qb, and Cleveland 3

Us - 2
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from that, 28 of the 32 teams have invested at least 1 top 3 round pick in a qb in the last 10 years. Teams that haven't:

Dallas
New Orleans
Chicago
Houston

Miami has spent picks in 4 years searching for a qb, and Cleveland 3

Us - 2
The chart is a bit misleading (at least based on your interpretation) because the Texans traded a 2nd round pick on Schaub and Chicago traded 2 firsts for Jay Cutler. That would just leave Dallas and New Orleans.
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The chart is a bit misleading (at least based on your interpretation) because the Texans traded a 2nd round pick on Schaub and Chicago traded 2 firsts for Jay Cutler. That would just leave Dallas and New Orleans.
good point.
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Am I reading the chart right? Did Miami really spend a 2nd round pick on a QB 3 years in a row? LOL.
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Lotus, I meant to type 2/3 instead of 3/2, so it would be our second round pick. I apologize for my error.
No wonder that was such a sweet deal.

Then I change my answer to, "depends who is still on the board." If some truly elite talent managed to fall to #26, then I might still make that deal.
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