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Old 03-30-2005, 07:02 AM   #1
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OK, I was reading Peter Kings (I don't like him either) article from the other day on CNNSI, and I noticed he said this:

"Saban loves draft picks: He wants more of them. He is in mourning over the fact the Dolphins don't have their second-round selection this year (they dealt it for A.J. Feeley last year), and I see Saban holding out for a second- or a third-round pick for cornerback Patrick Surtain. Right now, the best offer out there for Surtain is Kansas City's fourth-round pick."

Is it just me, or wouldn't it make LOTS of sense for us to trade a third rounder for Surtain (if that is actually an option)? I mean, it would free up our first rounder for the D Line or allow us to trade down more comfortably (which I would prefer) while giving us a top notch corner to line up beside Springs.
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Old 03-30-2005, 07:34 AM   #2
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OK, I was reading Peter Kings (I don't like him either) article from the other day on CNNSI, and I noticed he said this:

"Saban loves draft picks: He wants more of them. He is in mourning over the fact the Dolphins don't have their second-round selection this year (they dealt it for A.J. Feeley last year), and I see Saban holding out for a second- or a third-round pick for cornerback Patrick Surtain. Right now, the best offer out there for Surtain is Kansas City's fourth-round pick."

Is it just me, or wouldn't it make LOTS of sense for us to trade a third rounder for Surtain (if that is actually an option)? I mean, it would free up our first rounder for the D Line or allow us to trade down more comfortably (which I would prefer) while giving us a top notch corner to line up beside Springs.
I know Surtin brings a 8.1 Million Dollar cap hit with him; so if that was wiped out and reduced somewhere long the way, I wouldnt mind it. Its still hard to tell, because who knows what we will be left with on draft day.
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Old 03-30-2005, 07:44 AM   #3
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The cap hit is an issue. But, contracts can be reworked and bonuses spread out. I just think it makes a lot of sense to bring in a young pro bowler with a 3rd rounder instead of using a first rounder on a guy who might find the same level of success in the NFL he had in college.
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Old 03-30-2005, 08:25 AM   #4
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I know Surtin brings a 8.1 Million Dollar cap hit with him; so if that was wiped out and reduced somewhere long the way, I wouldnt mind it. Its still hard to tell, because who knows what we will be left with on draft day.
Are we sure about the cap hit? I don't have much knowledge on his contract but could that be the hit for Miami? Much like Coles maybe the huit isn't as big for a team who trades for him. Also...doens't he have some "issues" . I seem to remember him being somewhat of a malcontent. We don't need any of those.
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Old 03-30-2005, 12:15 PM   #5
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Why does he bring that cap hit with him?

If a player is traded, the remainder of his signing bonus is accelerated onto next year's cap - for the team that trades him.

We would pick up his salary, but it would all be unguaranteed money.

CC - can you chime in on this?
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Old 03-30-2005, 01:18 PM   #6
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i don't think we need him he'll demand a contract higher than what smoot asked for and that ain't gonna happen
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Old 03-30-2005, 01:19 PM   #7
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He's better than Smoot. Just thought that was worth mentioning.
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I haven't checked, but what is our cap looking like in 2006? I think it's an interesting option.
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Old 03-30-2005, 05:14 PM   #9
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He's better than Smoot. Just thought that was worth mentioning.
Very true, but I'm curious what the salaries look like side by side. I think that's the only reason the fins are having trouble unloaded Surtain for anything decent.

With the escalated Coles hit I'm GUESSING that we have more room in 2006.
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OK, I was reading Peter Kings (I don't like him either) article from the other day on CNNSI, and I noticed he said this:

"Saban loves draft picks: He wants more of them. He is in mourning over the fact the Dolphins don't have their second-round selection this year (they dealt it for A.J. Feeley last year), and I see Saban holding out for a second- or a third-round pick for cornerback Patrick Surtain. Right now, the best offer out there for Surtain is Kansas City's fourth-round pick."

Is it just me, or wouldn't it make LOTS of sense for us to trade a third rounder for Surtain (if that is actually an option)? I mean, it would free up our first rounder for the D Line or allow us to trade down more comfortably (which I would prefer) while giving us a top notch corner to line up beside Springs.
I thought about this before and i would but thats just me, how much mula $$ would he ask for
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Old 03-30-2005, 06:19 PM   #11
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Trotter drops off our cap after this year. And I cant remember if our deal with coles was in time to not affect next year. Trotter clears up lots of space.
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Old 03-30-2005, 08:22 PM   #12
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we could have afforded him if coles didnt account for over 9 million this year. Yes, Surtain is a steal for a 3rd rounder, but its not an option our team has.
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Old 04-01-2005, 07:47 PM   #13
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Sounds like Surtain is ready to go to KC

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/f...dolphins-front
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Old 04-01-2005, 07:52 PM   #14
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KC looks like they are goign to have a good team next year. They are definitly working hard to try and upgrade that defense.
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