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Old 03-12-2014, 10:48 AM   #196
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I can see if they are willing to let P. Thomas and Crawford recover from injury and are maybe thinking of bringing Merriweather back as a reason to not go after one of the top guys at CB or S. I don't endorse the strategy, but I can see it as one of their ways of thinking.

I hope we make moves over the next few days to bring in at least one starter at safety (Clemons), a nickel CB (Munnerlyn or Graham), a couple of pass rushing DE (Smith is a good start) and a potential starting OL. I'm nowhere near the panic button yet. Too many times in the past I was dancing in March and drinking in October.
Exactly why I find it interesting there are some people out there, not a lot but some, that are going apeshit over how we didn't get Byrd, Talib, or even Mitchell. I know Mitchell's contract is pretty reasonable, but perhaps he just preferred going to Pittsburgh? Sometimes you can't buy everyone you want.

Point is all is not lost just because we didn't land those guys. Still other options out there including the draft. I know people are tired of hearing it, but Jackson could be reinstated too. Rambo could improve in year 2, and Thomas will be back in the mix.
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Old 03-12-2014, 10:48 AM   #197
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agree, especially with the points on how poorly the Defense was built...but I know people hate it, but Haynesworth alone set this organization back, BIG TIME.
He did, but it didn't have to be that way.
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Old 03-12-2014, 10:50 AM   #198
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And even if Mitchell's contract breaks down to an effective guarantee of 10 million for two years, that's still a lot of cap tied up in Mike 'freakin Mitchell.

If the Redskins make a competitive offer for Chris Clemons, that's all they really have to do. Just give him something that would make sense for him to sign, and let him decide to come here or not.
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agree, especially with the points on how poorly the Defense was built...but I know people hate it, but Haynesworth alone set this organization back, BIG TIME.
There are dozens of decisions made as far back as 2004 that have contributed to where we are today, Haynesworth IMO was merely a blip. For people to expect that it would be fixed in the short term or with a few signings, they are fooling themselves. It shouldn't take 3-5 years to turn things around but there's still some significant dysfunction & questionable decisions being made in the front office though.

That being said, the approach to free agency may turn out to be the right one, I'm willing to be patient and see the ultimate outcomes rather than the 24 hour reactions.
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Judging from what we've done so far, it would appear that we have a budget of $4 mil. max per FA player.
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Old 03-12-2014, 11:29 AM   #201
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Blows my mind how many people ive seen on different boards already calling for a losing season in 2014. People need to chill out. Its been ONE day. The Redskins have long been criticized for big splash moves being compared to other teams that compete year in and year out who make a lot of mid-tier signings and always field an equal team all around. This year we seem to be taking that approach and people are up in arms. There is still talent left out there in Free Agency, and we just spent 2 draft picks on safeties a year ago and I dont think bailing on them just yet is the plan. One in which (Thomas) we havent even see play.

There are options to be had at a much more reasonable price than the ridiculous contracts these first batch of FAs received (Outside of MItchell who I believe was reasonable deal at $5M per but questions concerning him benefiting for such a good front.)

At CB -

Rodgers-Cromartie - If his heart is in it he can be a borderline elite man cov CB.

Carlos Rodgers - He would be a great vet presence who could help at nickel or #2 or S possibly.

Antonio Cromartie - He can still play and would be cheap and is man 2 man.

Tracey Porter- Character issues, but excellent man to man cover guy.

Brandon Browner - Character Issues and suspensed 4 games. But at one point was considered the most physical CB in the league at 6'4 200+ lbs. Could be cheap.

Also Brown and Munnerlyn. Captain Munnerlyn I view as solely a Nickel he is another Josh Wilson but i dont view him as quite as tough of a 5'8 CB as Wilson was.

Plus we are attached to Corey Graham who had a great season last year and has the size we have been lacking at 6'+. Although I dont put too much stock in him yet.

At Safety there are also still options.
Personally Merriweather if he got he crap together I believe could still be a contributor, the guy isnt 27 yet and people forget he is a 2x probowl player. Just needs a readjustment.

Chris Clemons - Not worth breaking the bank over but has range and speed.

Thomas Decoud - Not the best cover guy but is a ball hawk when its in the air and can play in the box.

Champ Bailey/ Charles Tillman - Both have been mentioned to being open to position switches to prolong careers and would add a leadership voice to a defense that currently has none. We Miss you London.

But Mainly I like the approach of looking at Antonio Smith, and maybe another big body rotation guy like Terrence Cody who aren't elite pass rushers from DL spots by any means but we enough push due to strength to warrant double teams and collapse the pocket vastly helping the secondary. A weak pass rush can make any secondary look terrible.

There is still options out there for ILB as well which can help us.
My favorite being Spikes, just because of his tough nose run stopping ability. He brings a toughness I believe the Redskins could use.

Bottom line - Its early, stop complaining yet. The draft is loaded with CBs. We still have options and I think bailing on our recent draft picks so early is what always get the redskins in trouble. Think about Seattle, when in Nickel Packages they have 10 of 11 starters all drafted by Seattle, they just gave them time to develop and opportunities to improve.

I think for once, we may be making the smart moves instead of the splash moves and in the end I believe it will pay dividends

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Judging from what we've done so far, it would appear that we have a budget of $4 mil. max per FA player.
lol...i think they are going conservative based on so many holes. i also think they werent prepared for the Joseph market, the DE market nor the safety market.

Safety is a major concern, being that the draft is already weak. The FA class was weak when Mike Mitchell gets that size of a contract. Im really lost on why the Browns paid Whitner and chose to let TJ Ward walk. Its astonishing really.

We need to get the Safety Clemons signed today and interupt Tanard's wake n bake for his signature.
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We do have some options.. or unknowns... as people here like to call them at safety/cb... ya know? .. Will Rambo improve? -- will Thomas exceed expectations of most and become a starter? are we going to re-sign josh Wilson (please god no) ? draft another cb? do they plan to get T.Jax back? Merriweather? -- What I'm seeing, and thinking, is that the FO has a plan.. our heads are spinning because we do not know that plan, lol. But I do however believe that they are making the right choices in what is the 'best interest of the team/franchise' at this point. And I am willing to roll with it.... I'm gonna stop stressing over who we are signing, what they are making, putting our cap numbers and players contracts under a microscope.... and wait for the draft and take the wait and see approach on any of the players we may bring on board.... After all ... none of it matters until at least august/September when players start to take the practice/exhibition/regular season field.

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Old 03-12-2014, 11:46 AM   #204
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if we are going to release any of our own guys, I hope we do it soon.

I understand you dont want to cut Bowen or Chester until you have their replacement lined up but I dont like stringing guys along and diminishing the window of opportunity they have to sign on with another team.

I hope to see some redskins cuts today to coincide with some signings over the next 48 hours.
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At CB -

Rodgers-Cromartie - If his heart is in it he can be a borderline elite man cov CB.

HAS UNDERACHIEVED AT EVERY STOP.


Carlos Rodgers - He would be a great vet presence who could help at nickel or #2 or S possibly.

HAS NO D IN HIS NAME BUT I'D TAKE HIM AS A FALLBACK OPTION IF WE DON'T GET GRAHAM OR MUNNERLYN


Antonio Cromartie - He can still play and would be cheap and is man 2 man.

DITTO WITH ROGERS BUT HE'S GETTING OLD

Tracey Porter- Character issues, but excellent man to man cover guy.

PORTER IS FAMOUS FOR GETTING BURNT!

Brandon Browner - Character Issues and suspensed 4 games. But at one point was considered the most physical CB in the league at 6'4 200+ lbs. Could be cheap.

TALENTED, YES. YOUNG, YES. WILL BE ON THE FIELD? NO. TOO MANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS GUY





At Safety there are also still options.

Chris Clemons - Not worth breaking the bank over but has range and speed.

DECENT, NOT TOO OLD BUT NOTHING SPECIAL

Thomas Decoud - Not the best cover guy but is a ball hawk when its in the air and can play in the box.

PROBABLY OUR BEST OPTION LEFT

Champ Bailey/ Charles Tillman - Both have been mentioned to being open to position switches to prolong careers and would add a leadership voice to a defense that currently has none. We Miss you London.

AGAIN, IF WE CAN'T GET ANYONE ELSE, MOVE THEM TO FS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS

My thoughts on your player choices.

What about signing TWO CBs like Graham and Munnerlyn and moving Hall to FS? Not a bad idea.

Another safety I'd add to our list to look into is Major Wright.
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lol...i think they are going conservative based on so many holes. i also think they werent prepared for the Joseph market, the DE market nor the safety market.

Safety is a major concern, being that the draft is already weak. The FA class was weak when Mike Mitchell gets that size of a contract. Im really lost on why the Browns paid Whitner and chose to let TJ Ward walk. Its astonishing really.

We need to get the Safety Clemons signed today and interupt Tanard's wake n bake for his signature.
I hope that they were prepared for those markets. Joseph went cheaper than what I thought, Mitchell went for what I predicted here the other day, and I am not a professional.

It would seem that we are taking a Walmart approach - high volume, low prices. Not that this is a bad thing. Every team has just-a-guys; we're getting the lunch pail types who fit our vision.

Also, LOL about TJax.
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Captain Munnerlyn is my choice, along with Antonio Smith. I am curious to see who overpays for Eric Decker though.
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^Jets most likely...or the Patriots jump in to get revenge on Denver taking Welker.
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It would seem that we are taking a Walmart approach - high volume, low prices. Not that this is a bad thing. Every team has just-a-guys; we're getting the lunch pail types who fit our vision.
Reminds me of every one of our Super Bowl-winning teams.
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Captain Munnerlyn is my choice, along with Antonio Smith. I am curious to see who overpays for Eric Decker though.
Id watch the Colts with Decker
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