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Old 03-16-2014, 09:59 PM   #646
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Redskins in talks with Brandon Meriweather per Dianna Marie Russini
I wouldn't be horribly opposed to this, esp since we have few good options. Why not have someone back there vs nothing at all. Merriweather showed promise long ago as a ProBowl stong safety, and we've been using him more often as free safety. He was only one year out of two injuries last year. If we got a real free safety (even an aging Ryan Clark), have more pass rush with Hatcher and continue to groom the young players like PThomas (if healthy).. I think there's a chance BMerriweather could do okay.

Yes, it's Plan C -- but Plan A (Byrd), Plan B (Mitchell, others) are no longer options. Plan D is Draft.
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:10 PM   #647
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I am not under the illusion Porter is a good CB, however they now have 2 veteran CBs, and 2 young ones (Amerson + Crawford)... possibly Minnifield. Also the CB depth in this draft is questionable. Who would you take in the 2nd ?

I would not pick a WR with the 2nd round pick, if a great player slips to the second round I take him... otherwise trade down, and add picks . They still need help everywhere.
CBs -
Jason Verrett -TCU
Kyle Fuller - VT
Bradley Roby - OSU

And let me say this. I am not as opposed to a 2nd round pick on a very high quality receiver, if we are certain he is going to pan out, as I am talking about taking a TE in the 3rd/4th. Memories of Thomas/Kelly from a few years ago still brings back nightmares.

Yes this league is set up to require multiple talents at receiver to do anything prolific with your offense. But it has also shown you need a shut down secondary to stop those prolific offenses, and as Seattle has just shown us, defense wins championships even against the likes of the immortal Peyton Manning.

As others have said, Oline and secondary are our two biggest areas of need. We struck out on Browner, Talib, Thurmond, and probably others I don't even know about. Hatcher was a good signing and I would love to bring in Penn (hope that pans out tomorrow). Secondary is going to have to be addressed. How many times/people pissed and moaned about our porous secondary last year watching meriweather knock himself out and have CB's toasted like marshmallows over a campfire? We need to draft at least one CS and Safety, maybe two, for me to be happy.
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Old 03-17-2014, 02:32 AM   #648
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Defensively we look like this
D-Line-----Hatcher/Cofield/Bowen/JJenkins
OLB---Rak/Kerrigan/BJenkins/Jackson (maybe)
ILB----Riley/Robinson/Heyward/Sharpton/BJenkins
CB----Hall/Amerson/Porter/Crawford/
Safety-----Phillip Thomas/Rambo/Merriweather {Clemmons,Wright,Clark}
LB corp looks nice IMO but glaring needs are at safety and cb obviously

Offensively
needs in draft
O-Line
TE
WR
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Defensively we look like this
D-Line-----Hatcher/Cofield/Bowen/JJenkins
OLB---Rak/Kerrigan/BJenkins/Jackson (maybe)
ILB----Riley/Robinson/Heyward/Sharpton/BJenkins
CB----Hall/Amerson/Porter/Crawford/
Safety-----Phillip Thomas/Rambo/Merriweather {Clemmons,Wright,Clark}
LB corp looks nice IMO but glaring needs are at safety and cb obviously

Offensively
needs in draft
O-Line
TE
WR
We still have Minnifield at CB right? Am I the only one still holding out hope for him?
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Old 03-17-2014, 07:38 AM   #650
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CBs -
Jason Verrett -TCU
Kyle Fuller - VT
Bradley Roby - OSU

And let me say this. I am not as opposed to a 2nd round pick on a very high quality receiver, if we are certain he is going to pan out, as I am talking about taking a TE in the 3rd/4th. Memories of Thomas/Kelly from a few years ago still brings back nightmares.

Yes this league is set up to require multiple talents at receiver to do anything prolific with your offense. But it has also shown you need a shut down secondary to stop those prolific offenses, and as Seattle has just shown us, defense wins championships even against the likes of the immortal Peyton Manning.

As others have said, Oline and secondary are our two biggest areas of need. We struck out on Browner, Talib, Thurmond, and probably others I don't even know about. Hatcher was a good signing and I would love to bring in Penn (hope that pans out tomorrow). Secondary is going to have to be addressed. How many times/people pissed and moaned about our porous secondary last year watching meriweather knock himself out and have CB's toasted like marshmallows over a campfire? We need to draft at least one CS and Safety, maybe two, for me to be happy.

Verrett is 5'9" a great productive athlete, injury problems... torn labrum..... maybe if he is there

Roby arrested for a bar fight, and suspended in 2013...."Roby had a forgettable senior season with poor performances in big games" No Thanks

Fuller rated #59... 24 tackles and 2 interceptions in 2013... sports hernia... not in the early second round

Again I never said WR or TE in the second, I like a 2 TE package, we already have one very good one, a second would add a lot to the offense

best option is probably trade down
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Verrett is 5'9" a great productive athlete, injury problems... torn labrum..... maybe if he is there (umm no means he is weak, he would get trampled in the NFL, torn labrum nuff said)

Roby arrested for a bar fight, and suspended in 2013...."Roby had a forgettable senior season with poor performances in big games" No Thanks - (give the guy a shot we need studs, tough guys, bar fight guys are tough guys)

Fuller rated #59... 24 tackles and 2 interceptions in 2013... sports hernia... not in the early second round - (no opinion)

Again I never said WR or TE in the second, I like a 2 TE package, we already have one very good one, a second would add a lot to the offense

best option is probably trade down
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Defensively we look like this
D-Line-----Hatcher/Cofield/Bowen/JJenkins
OLB---Rak/Kerrigan/BJenkins/Jackson (maybe)
ILB----Riley/Robinson/Heyward/Sharpton/BJenkins
CB----Hall/Amerson/Porter/Crawford/
Safety-----Phillip Thomas/Rambo/Merriweather {Clemmons,Wright,Clark}
LB corp looks nice IMO but glaring needs are at safety and cb obviously

Offensively
needs in draft
O-Line
TE
WR
D-line-Don't forget about Baker
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Old 03-17-2014, 10:55 AM   #653
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jackson is probably gone unless no one else wants him.

minnifield's injury (his knees are shot) is career threatening, so if he doesn't play this year, that's probably it for him and the NFL. I'd love to see him play well, but i wouldn't bet money on it.
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Old 03-17-2014, 10:58 AM   #654
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Re: Redskins Free Agents Signings Thread

Nice article by Rich Tandler:

Are you wondering why your favorite free agent not signed with the Redskins? Here are five possible reasons.

Money—This is often, but not always, the issue. The team thinks the player is worth X dollars per year. The player and his agent think he’s worth X plus Y dollars. The team might go up a little and the player’s camp might come down a little but ultimately they just can’t come to an agreement. Or, the Redskins called the agent, found out what the opening contract demand were and then didn’t call back. If you’re wondering why a particular player isn’t getting interest from anyone, it’s often a case that he’s pricing himself out of the market.

Length of contract—This is something that could be a hang up in getting a deal done with someone like Anthony Spencer. He might want a one-year deal to have a “prove it” season after he missed almost all of last year with an injury so that if he plays well he can hit free agency again in a year. The Redskins might want him on a two-year deal so that if he does break out they are rewarded with another season of having him under contract.

No interest in the team by the player—Perhaps the free agent you covet doesn’t want to play for the Redskins. It could be that the player wants to stay closer to home. Or he heard about the traffic and the high cost of housing in Northern Virginia. And even the most avid fans would have to admit that the recent history of losing and turmoil on the team could turn off some players.

Not a scheme fit—Your free agent may be ranked in the top 10 on every website you can find but perhaps he doesn’t fit in what the Redskins do. It’s just not a fit at any price if the player’s strengths are not what your scheme emphasizes. The Eagles’ Chip Kelly talked about it this week and the same could apply to the Redskins and most other teams

The player may not want to sign yet—This could apply to a player like Champ Bailey. He is likely to get a one-year deal and even if there is mutual interest (no reports that there are, just an example here) there’s no reason for him to rush and sign a deal. Maybe after minicamps are over, a coach will look at his defensive backs and might think Bailey is worth a little bit more than they thought. A player in Bailey’s situation has nothing to lose and everything to gain by waiting.


If I may be so bold, I'd like to add my own sixth possible reason to the list:

Your favorite free agent sucks - He simply sucks.
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Who knew a torn labrum was a sign of weakness
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Really

Plan c?
We can't overhaul the team in one off season.
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I wouldn't be horribly opposed to this, esp since we have few good options. Why not have someone back there vs nothing at all. Merriweather showed promise long ago as a ProBowl stong safety, and we've been using him more often as free safety. He was only one year out of two injuries last year. If we got a real free safety (even an aging Ryan Clark), have more pass rush with Hatcher and continue to groom the young players like PThomas (if healthy).. I think there's a chance BMerriweather could do okay.

Yes, it's Plan C -- but Plan A (Byrd), Plan B (Mitchell, others) are no longer options. Plan D is Draft.
I have no desire to see 35 year old Ryan Clark come back. We're going to have to see if some of these young guys can grow up.
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jackson is probably gone unless no one else wants him.

minnifield's injury (his knees are shot) is career threatening, so if he doesn't play this year, that's probably it for him and the NFL. I'd love to see him play well, but i wouldn't bet money on it.
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Old 03-17-2014, 12:42 PM   #659
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Ryan Clark would be a bandaid till we can draft a safety next draft
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Old 03-17-2014, 01:02 PM   #660
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So Strief just re-signed with the Saints for $8.5 million guaranteed and a $4.1 million per season average. How does that compare to what Donald Penn will get. I don't see us spending that kinda cash for him...
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