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Old 03-11-2014, 12:42 PM   #46
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From what I have read, the guy is not just a good signing talent-wise, he is a solid character guy. What makes you think the guy is even a prospect for character flags other than "He's not a superstar on a bad team so he really has no place with us."?

By calling this a good signing, I don't think anyone is saying "Wohooo!! Superbowl here we come!!" More like "Cool, solid guy, looks like he can help and is a younger alternative to, and possible improvement on, Moss."

You're right though. The first announcement should have been that we traded our next three first round picks for Revis Island.
Pretty sure he was talking about Britt.
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Old 03-11-2014, 12:48 PM   #47
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Pretty sure he was talking about Britt.
Yeah it was Britt but I confused at first too.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:00 PM   #48
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Roberts at this price will be a much stronger addition a year from now when Garcon is a cap casualty. Assuming the Redskins aren't done signing receivers (spoiler: they aren't), his reps are going to be tough to come by this year.
Really? What would make you think our only weapon Garcon will be cut in a year? If that comes off a certain way its not im just curious.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:01 PM   #49
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Hes an upgrade over Aldrick... Depth signing...
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roberts is a solid signing. i doubt it's more than 3-4mill guaranteed, so it's low risk.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:07 PM   #51
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and anyone that thinks garcon is getting cut next year is some kind of crazy. unless you're planning on lead-piping his knee or some such.
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and anyone that thinks garcon is getting cut next year is some kind of crazy. unless you're planning on lead-piping his knee or some such.
Or understand how backloaded deals affect the cap.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:19 PM   #53
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Really? What would make you think our only weapon Garcon will be cut in a year? If that comes off a certain way its not im just curious.
There's a new coaching staff, who isn't going to hold onto a player just to hold onto a player. If you can get the same production for half the price, they'll do it.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:24 PM   #55
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Or understand how backloaded deals affect the cap.
yeah, its more cap related than performance related. Gruden is a fan, if Garcon plays well, you can always iron out a backloaded deal.
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Or understand how backloaded deals affect the cap.
His deal isn't a cap killer, nor is it a backloaded deal in the sense of skyrocketing cap charges. His base salary, dead cap and cap savings per year of his deal is :
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2012 $2,100,000 $13,100,000 ($8,400,000)
2013 $5,600,000 $8,800,000 ($615,625)
2014 $7,100,000 $6,600,000 $3,100,000
2015 $7,100,000 $4,400,000 $5,300,000
2016 $7,600,000 $2,200,000 $8,000,000

That's a consistent base salary, which indicates a team is looking to count on him, and not be forced into a decision based on outrageous base or cap numbers.
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His deal isn't a cap killer, nor is it a backloaded deal in the sense of skyrocketing cap charges. His base salary, dead cap and cap savings per year of his deal is :
Year
2012 $2,100,000 $13,100,000 ($8,400,000)
2013 $5,600,000 $8,800,000 ($615,625)
2014 $7,100,000 $6,600,000 $3,100,000
2015 $7,100,000 $4,400,000 $5,300,000
2016 $7,600,000 $2,200,000 $8,000,000

That's a consistent base salary, which indicates a team is looking to count on him, and not be forced into a decision based on outrageous base or cap numbers.
Can save $5.3 million to release or $7.5 million with a post June 1 designation.

$5 MM AAV can get you a better receiver than Garcon on the open market in most years. Plus: they're going to draft someone from a loaded WR class who is going to need someone to get released from the rotation in order to get increased reps.

It's a no brainer.
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Glad you are not in FO Gtripp. I am going to walk away. have a great day.
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yeah, its more cap related than performance related. Gruden is a fan, if Garcon plays well, you can always iron out a backloaded deal.
If Gruden is a fan. Gruden came from Cincinnati, where he had AJ Green, Marvin Jones, Mohammad Sanu, and Andrew Hawkins. He's going to try to put something similar together here, and that gets a lot easier when Garcon isn't hogging $9 million on the cap.

He's a necessary part of this year's roster, so I'm not suggesting that Gruden can't wait to get Garcon out of town. I just think the offense is going to be Jordan Reed-centric because...well, obviously.
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Well if Gruden continues to be a fan. He's stated he showed film of Garcon to his receivers and has stated such.
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