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Old 03-11-2014, 03:24 PM   #76
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A) Roberts alone does not help us to match up with the teams you mentioned. However, he is our first offseason move. There is already discussion about our acquiring Linval Joseph - how is that for working on the trenches? And once we have matched up in the trenches, a capable slot receiver can be a difference-maker.

B) Michael Johnson? Talented, sure. But he is too small for our DL, which means he'd change positions to OLB for us. Can he cover? Can he make the transition? Does he want to make the transition? Fact is, we're likely better off sticking with Kerrakpo.

Therefore, (C):
You're knocking the small Roberts signing but you're calling for big $$ to be spent to make a player change positions.

I don't get (C)
Yeah Johnson doesn't fit our defense when we're in the 3-4. In passing situations when we have a 4 man line he might. But I agree, Johnson isn't the best fit here.
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Old 03-11-2014, 03:25 PM   #77
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Well, score one in the books for the deplorable executives who say things like "fans can never understand the game they're watching."

I really hate it when he's right. We're better than he gives us credit for.

When this thread gets bumped anonymously two years from now, it's going to be hilarious.
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Old 03-11-2014, 03:27 PM   #78
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Weird, because I hate that too! I guess we're pretty similar.

And you'll hate to find out how meaningless it is to lead the league in receptions when people think that matters! Do it on fewer targets, and then you'll really impress me. High efficiency is sexy.

Here's the thing, he's an integral part of a past team. I respect your salary cap percentage argument, though even you would admit that it's comparing apples to oranges given how much the Redskins spent in terms of cash in 2013 vs. 2015 projections. The marginal value of the cap space will be very relevant, and that's what matters.

You want to bet on Garcon being on this team next season? Cool. You can do that. It's a dumb bet, and no one is going to remember this anyway.
Cash is irrelevant, cap is the constraint for the Redskins, not cash. Cash is an issue for teams like the Bengals and Bills, not us.

As for marginal value, you're forgetting about the contract inflation that comes along with an increasing cap. When 2015 hits and the cap is $140M or higher, a $10M cap number for a highly effective WR will not seem bad in comparison. In fact I don't think you'll be able to find a single better value among the players who hit the open market next year.

As for a bet, yes I'll take it with you any day, he will absolutely be a Redskin in 2015. I think people around here will look forward to seeing you proved wrong a lot more than you think.
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So back to Andre Roberts...
Can't talk about other team's players, that's tampering.
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Weird, because I hate that too! I guess we're pretty similar.

And you'll hate to find out how meaningless it is to lead the league in receptions when people think that matters! Do it on fewer targets, and then you'll really impress me. High efficiency is sexy.

Here's the thing, he's an integral part of a past team. I respect your salary cap percentage argument, though even you would admit that it's comparing apples to oranges given how much the Redskins spent in terms of cash in 2013 vs. 2015 projections. The marginal value of the cap space will be very relevant, and that's what matters.

You want to bet on Garcon being on this team next season? Cool. You can do that. It's a dumb bet, and no one is going to remember this anyway.
$100.00 Right here, right now says, barring a new (not just a recurrence of the plantar faciiitis) PG is on the team next year. I don't care how you mark it down, hold me to it, etc. if right, you can remind the entire WP.

$100 cash money.
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Old 03-11-2014, 03:30 PM   #81
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$100.00 Right here, right now says, barring a new (not just a recurrence of the plantar faciiitis) PG is on the team next year. I don't care how you mark it down, hold me to it, etc. if right, you can remind the entire WP.

$100 cash money.
3 2 1 ...... to GT back peddling. Won't put his money where his mouth is. Book it!
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I'll take that action too. $100. For real GTripp, dead serious. I'll paypal it right now to whoever's willing to hold it for us.
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I'll take that action too. $100. For real GTripp, dead serious. I'll paypal it right now to whoever's willing to hold it for us.
Do it to Matty's account that we set up VIP accounts with.
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Old 03-11-2014, 03:32 PM   #84
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Can't talk about other team's players, that's tampering.
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3 2 1 ...... to GT back peddling. Won't put his money where his mouth is. Book it!
GT is so f'ing annoying. Loves going against the masses. Its what he does. I just ignore him.
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PG is probaly one of the best FA signings we have had in some time.
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Do it to Matty's account that we set up VIP accounts with.
Good idea...loser donates to the WP!
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Old 03-11-2014, 03:34 PM   #88
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Cash is irrelevant, cap is the constraint for the Redskins, not cash. Cash is an issue for teams like the Bengals and Bills, not us.

As for marginal value, you're forgetting about the contract inflation that comes along with an increasing cap. When 2015 hits and the cap is $140M or higher, a $10M cap number for a highly effective WR will not seem bad in comparison. In fact I don't think you'll be able to find a single better value among the players who hit the open market next year.

As for a bet, yes I'll take it with you any day, he will absolutely be a Redskin in 2015. I think people around here will look forward to seeing you proved wrong a lot more than you think.
That bolded thing is the truest thing you've said today.

Look, if he earns an extension, then I'm flat wrong. Wouldn't be the first or last time. But if he plays at a level unworthy of an extension, he's a cap casualty. That's just good cap management, which you've lauded this team before. So if you think they'll continue to show good cap management...then I don't understand how you can't see how safe my position is here.

All of that would have been the case if the Shanahan's were still in charge, but it's a regime that isn't responsible for his contract. So...yeah, connect the dots whenever.

By the way, when I actually am wrong, I enjoy people poking fun at how dumb I am. Makes me feel important.
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Old 03-11-2014, 03:36 PM   #89
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Not backpeddaling, but I'm 26 and can't just bet $100 on sports whenever I feel like. I think it's a good bet, to be honest. But I would not bet on what I'm not good for. I know for a fact Schneed is good for $100.

36 year old GTripp would love to take that bet though.
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$100 GTripp ... easy money according to you.
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