w/o of next year

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-05-2005, 02:47 PM

I definitely think Cooley can be an above average to great player. Not to be pessimistic, but in staying with a typical school of thought, we didn't expect a lot so anything that he could contribute was WELL above average.

To his full credit though, he caught almost EVERYTHING that came his way. He wasn't afraid to take big hits and he runs fairly well after the catch.

Mattyk · 04-05-2005, 02:47 PM

You Ramsey jock-sniffers need to wise up, he's a scrub who's never going to amount to anything!

LOL

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-05-2005, 02:48 PM

Rehire Jeff George!!! Who's with me????

Red Robert · 04-05-2005, 03:02 PM

Where is Heath Shuler when we need him most?

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-05-2005, 03:11 PM

Yeah, and we'll get Shuler to provide depth.

Daseal · 04-05-2005, 04:56 PM

I think Cooley is a great player - but lets see how he handles the normal sophmore slump!

Redskins_P · 04-05-2005, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You Ramsey jock-sniffers need to wise up, he's a scrub who's never going to amount to anything!

LOL

Matty you forgot something.......

firstdown · 04-05-2005, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Yeah, and we'll get Shuler to provide depth.

Why would we need to add depth with Shuler when we have strong armed Brunell? LOL

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-05-2005, 06:50 PM

LOL I almost forgot. But hey, why not? We'd have a lefty and a righty (I think.)

Defensewins · 04-05-2005, 08:43 PM

Jacobs will get some freak injury during training camp like always does.....something like....he will rupture his spleen when dives for an overthrown ball and lands on someones foot. Or he will pull his hammy and miss two weeks of training camp.
The guy does have talent.

sportscurmudgeon · 04-05-2005, 11:57 PM

Matty/Malcom:

Cooley can break out this year by actually getting into the end zone more frequently. That was the major failing of the team last season and someone has to get the job done. If you think he can't get a whole lot better than he was last year, then he was a waste of time as a draft pick because he was decidedly average for the league last year.

Malcom:

In two seasons, Jacobs has shown nothing productive as a WR. Ooooh, he's fast! So what. Cliff Russell was even faster and they cut his ass and no one missed him even a whit. Speed is one important part of being a WR but it ain't enough by itself. And so far, Jacobs has shown precious little else. If he caught 30 passes and 1 TD next year, that would be a breakout year for him.

McCants will either get with the program that the staff is putting out or he will see the field once every three weeks again this year. Compared to last year, he'd have a break out year with 15 catches and 2 TDs.

Do you folks realize that Gus Frerotte stands a real chance to be the starter in Miami? If he can start, maybe Heath-bar can make a comeback too? [Just kidding.]

The breakout player of the year will have to be Patrick Ramsey because if he does not improve dramatically, the Skins will be lucky to break even this year AND will need to make some tough choices in the next offseason about what the team's future QB situation will be. Here is what Ramsey needs to accomplish:

Twice as many TDs as INTs.
QB Rating of at least 85 and preferably 90
Third down conversion rate of 43-45%
Less than 35 sacks.
Less than 8 fumbles.

John Hasbrouck · 04-06-2005, 12:59 AM

McCants should be playing-special teams or not

Daseal · 04-06-2005, 02:14 AM

SC - Cliff Russell couldn't catch a cold. That's a big difference from jacobs who the staff raves about.

Redskins8588 · 04-06-2005, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Matty/Malcom:

Cooley can break out this year by actually getting into the end zone more frequently. That was the major failing of the team last season and someone has to get the job done. If you think he can't get a whole lot better than he was last year, then he was a waste of time as a draft pick because he was decidedly average for the league last year.

What more could have Cooley done last season for you to agree that he had a good season?!?! How many other 3rd round picks from last year had the season that he had? Hell how many 1st rounders had the season that he had? Cooley was deffinetly a surprise for us, to be chosen in the third round and have a season like he did!! Not many rookies can come in to the NFL and be "decidedly average" in there first 16 game season, esp. on a new and dismal offense!!! Cooley will get better, but cut the kid some slack he did do whatever was asked of him!!

Defensewins · 04-06-2005, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by offiss

In all do respect SC on Jacobs, all I hear on this board is how it takes a reciever 3 years before they mature and become all they can be, yet if a reciever doesn't go crazy his first 2 years he's knocked for it, Jacob's had a freak injury most of his rookie season under SS, and lets face it Gibbs didn't show the greatest of judgement in personel last season, he went and played Gardner all year long to find out what most of us on this board already new, Gardner will burn you every time, and he left Ramseys favorite target inactive most of the season. Jacobs has shown he has the physical ability, he just needs an offense that will get him more involved, and that's Gibbs job.

1) I have heard maybe two or three people say it take a WR three years to develop, not many more. I do not agree that it takes three years. WR is one of the few postions (RB the other) where a talented rookie can come in and play right away. QB on the other hand is much more difficult.

2) Regarding Jacobs freak accident/injury during his rookie season, it caused him to only miss 1/4 of his rookie season. He was on the sideline and ready to play for most of the other games that year. IMO Jacob just did not show enough in practice to earn a starting position and displace another starting WR.

3) Correct me if I am wrong, are you saying Jacobs was/is Ramsey's favorite target? When last season did Jacobs become Ramsey's favorite target? I must have missed that memo. It seemed clear to me that L. Coles and Cooley were Ramsey's favorite targets last year.

4) Regarding who's job it is to get Jacobs more involved: A player has to earn his starting position. It is Jacobs #1 responsiblity to be in shape, stay healthy and EARN a starting job. I am not sure why you are blaming Gibbs? It was not Gibbs fault Jacobs missed almost all of 2004 preseason due to minor injuries. It was not Gibbs fault that Jacobs could not even crack the starting line up the year before under Spurrier. Spurrier ran the same system Jacobs played in college. Jacobs came in at a clear advantage in knowing the system better than any other WR on the roster. Still he could not earn a starting spot.

I am not seeing that he is ready to explode.
He plays well in non-contact practices. Big deal. So did Trung Canidate.

04-05-2005, 02:47 PM	#31
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,119	Re: w/o of next year I definitely think Cooley can be an above average to great player. Not to be pessimistic, but in staying with a typical school of thought, we didn't expect a lot so anything that he could contribute was WELL above average. To his full credit though, he caught almost EVERYTHING that came his way. He wasn't afraid to take big hits and he runs fairly well after the catch. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-05-2005, 02:47 PM	#32
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,693	Re: w/o of next year You Ramsey jock-sniffers need to wise up, he's a scrub who's never going to amount to anything! LOL __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

04-05-2005, 02:48 PM	#33
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,119	Re: w/o of next year Rehire Jeff George!!! Who's with me???? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-05-2005, 03:02 PM	#34
Red Robert Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 43 Posts: 306	Re: w/o of next year Where is Heath Shuler when we need him most?

04-05-2005, 03:11 PM	#35
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,119	Re: w/o of next year Yeah, and we'll get Shuler to provide depth. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-05-2005, 04:56 PM	#36
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Re: w/o of next year I think Cooley is a great player - but lets see how he handles the normal sophmore slump! __________________ Best. Player. Available.

04-05-2005, 06:50 PM	#39
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,119	Re: w/o of next year LOL I almost forgot. But hey, why not? We'd have a lefty and a righty (I think.) __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-05-2005, 08:43 PM	#40
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,753	Re: w/o of next year Jacobs will get some freak injury during training camp like always does.....something like....he will rupture his spleen when dives for an overthrown ball and lands on someones foot. Or he will pull his hammy and miss two weeks of training camp. The guy does have talent.

04-05-2005, 11:57 PM	#41
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: w/o of next year Matty/Malcom: Cooley can break out this year by actually getting into the end zone more frequently. That was the major failing of the team last season and someone has to get the job done. If you think he can't get a whole lot better than he was last year, then he was a waste of time as a draft pick because he was decidedly average for the league last year. Malcom: In two seasons, Jacobs has shown nothing productive as a WR. Ooooh, he's fast! So what. Cliff Russell was even faster and they cut his ass and no one missed him even a whit. Speed is one important part of being a WR but it ain't enough by itself. And so far, Jacobs has shown precious little else. If he caught 30 passes and 1 TD next year, that would be a breakout year for him. McCants will either get with the program that the staff is putting out or he will see the field once every three weeks again this year. Compared to last year, he'd have a break out year with 15 catches and 2 TDs. Do you folks realize that Gus Frerotte stands a real chance to be the starter in Miami? If he can start, maybe Heath-bar can make a comeback too? [Just kidding.] The breakout player of the year will have to be Patrick Ramsey because if he does not improve dramatically, the Skins will be lucky to break even this year AND will need to make some tough choices in the next offseason about what the team's future QB situation will be. Here is what Ramsey needs to accomplish: Twice as many TDs as INTs. QB Rating of at least 85 and preferably 90 Third down conversion rate of 43-45% Less than 35 sacks. Less than 8 fumbles. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

04-06-2005, 12:59 AM	#42
John Hasbrouck Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 180	Re: w/o of next year McCants should be playing-special teams or not

04-06-2005, 02:14 AM	#43
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Re: w/o of next year SC - Cliff Russell couldn't catch a cold. That's a big difference from jacobs who the staff raves about. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

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