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Old 04-06-2005, 08:31 AM   #46
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Jeezus. No way am I taking away from what Cooley did last year. I thought he played great and he quickly became one of my favorite players on the team. I'm just laying it out as I see it.

I just don't see how I was "knocking" him. Oh well, I guess some things just get taken COMPLETELY out of context.
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Old 04-06-2005, 09:02 AM   #47
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What more could have Cooley done last season for you to agree that he had a good season?!?! How many other 3rd round picks from last year had the season that he had? Hell how many 1st rounders had the season that he had? Cooley was deffinetly a surprise for us, to be chosen in the third round and have a season like he did!! Not many rookies can come in to the NFL and be "decidedly average" in there first 16 game season, esp. on a new and dismal offense!!! Cooley will get better, but cut the kid some slack he did do whatever was asked of him!!
I'm not positive but didn't Cooley have the best rookie season of all the TEs/H-Backs?

I don't think he even dropped a ball all season.
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Old 04-06-2005, 09:05 AM   #48
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Jeezus. No way am I taking away from what Cooley did last year. I thought he played great and he quickly became one of my favorite players on the team. I'm just laying it out as I see it.

I just don't see how I was "knocking" him. Oh well, I guess some things just get taken COMPLETELY out of context.
Who said you were knocking him? I can't find any post that says that
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Old 04-06-2005, 09:15 AM   #49
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What more could have Cooley done last season for you to agree that he had a good season?!?! How many other 3rd round picks from last year had the season that he had? Hell how many 1st rounders had the season that he had? Cooley was deffinetly a surprise for us, to be chosen in the third round and have a season like he did!! Not many rookies can come in to the NFL and be "decidedly average" in there first 16 game season, esp. on a new and dismal offense!!! Cooley will get better, but cut the kid some slack he did do whatever was asked of him!!
Cooley exceeded expectations, but let not go over board. There are plenty of rookie TE that come in have great - probowl rookie years.
Some drafted as low or lower than Cooley.
San Diego Charger - Antonio Gates was not even drafted. He was an undrafted rookie that was the starter on the AFC 2004 Pro Bowl team.
Jason Witten - Cowboys - was drafted in the thrid round (just like Cooley) and was on the 2004 NFC Pro Bowl team.
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Old 04-06-2005, 09:24 AM   #50
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A quick comparison of rookie years:

Witten: 35-347-1
Gates: 24-389-2
Cooley: 37-314-6

Let's see if he can make the same jump in his 2nd year. Probably not simply because I don't see Cooley becoming a focus of the offense, but I can see him catching 50+ balls in 2005.

You never know though, looking at his numbers when Ramsey took over he had 27-227-4. He was clearly a go-to guy for Ramsey.
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Old 04-06-2005, 10:08 AM   #51
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I think Pro Bowl will be hard for him. They list him as a fullback on the roster, his forte isn't exactly his blocking. I doubt the guys that choose the pro bowl players will be inclined to take him over a big blocking FB.
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Cooley exceeded expectations, but let not go over board. There are plenty of rookie TE that come in have great - probowl rookie years.
Some drafted as low or lower than Cooley.
San Diego Charger - Antonio Gates was not even drafted. He was an undrafted rookie that was the starter on the AFC 2004 Pro Bowl team.
Jason Witten - Cowboys - was drafted in the thrid round (just like Cooley) and was on the 2004 NFC Pro Bowl team.
From the numbers that Matty posted Cooley had a Pro-Bowl rookie year compared to Gates and Wittens rookie year.
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Old 04-07-2005, 08:45 AM   #53
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What more could have Cooley done last season for you to agree that he had a good season?!?! How many other 3rd round picks from last year had the season that he had? Hell how many 1st rounders had the season that he had? Cooley was deffinetly a surprise for us, to be chosen in the third round and have a season like he did!! Not many rookies can come in to the NFL and be "decidedly average" in there first 16 game season, esp. on a new and dismal offense!!! Cooley will get better, but cut the kid some slack he did do whatever was asked of him!!
This one.
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Old 04-07-2005, 08:48 AM   #54
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Wychek was a H-back but he made the Pro Bowl for TE, didn't he?

I think for some reason they just had Cooley listed wrong last year. If you look him up on NFL.com he's under the TE category now.
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If you go back and look at Redskin8588's post he's referencing what Sportscurmudgeon wrote about what you and Matty said. So, I think he's actually defending you

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If that is the case. That is my bad. Sometimes I get a little on the mentally handicapped side.

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Sorry Redskin8588.
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Sorry Redskin8588.
It's ok, It happens from time to time, No big deal!!
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