NFL Network's Breakdown on Ramsey

SKINSnCANES · 04-05-2005, 09:26 PM

thanks, I wish he said that hes been workign hard with the receivers alreayd.

KLHJ2 · 04-05-2005, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

thanks, I wish he said that hes been workign hard with the receivers alreayd.

Do npt sweat what he said. The offseason is based on a strict training schedule. They do things in order. First they get stronger then they get conditioned, and so on and so fourth. He will start getting on the same page as his receivers soon enough.

sportscurmudgeon · 04-05-2005, 11:42 PM

Was anyone surprised at anything reported here?

He did what athletes are taught to do these days; praise everyone and everything and mention how hard you are working and how you need to take your game to the next level. :frusty:

Even if he believed that Joe Gibbs was a senile old fool who could not put his own Depends on without assistance {I'm sure Ramsey does not think that!] he would not say it. He'd say that Gibbs is a wonderful and creative genius who thinks only about winning and making each roster member a better person and player tomorrow than he is today.

Recap of interview:

1. Information Content = ZERO

2. Fan evaluation = Warm and Fuzzy

3. Team Evaluation = Excellent because now it is over and no one wet themselves in the process.

JWsleep · 04-05-2005, 11:52 PM

C'mon, Sports! WHat's next? You'll be telling us there's no Santa Claus and that wrestling is fixed! ;>)

Paintrain · 04-05-2005, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Was anyone surprised at anything reported here?

He did what athletes are taught to do these days; praise everyone and everything and mention how hard you are working and how you need to take your game to the next level. :frusty:

Even if he believed that Joe Gibbs was a senile old fool who could not put his own Depends on without assistance {I'm sure Ramsey does not think that!] he would not say it. He'd say that Gibbs is a wonderful and creative genius who thinks only about winning and making each roster member a better person and player tomorrow than he is today.

Recap of interview:

1. Information Content = ZERO

2. Fan evaluation = Warm and Fuzzy

3. Team Evaluation = Excellent because now it is over and no one wet themselves in the process.

Man, it must suck to go thruough life with such a negative outlook on things that you had to denigrate this interview just for the sheer purpose of crapping on it.. In the boring period before camp forgive people for getting a little excited to actually see and hear from someone on the team for 5 minutes..

sportscurmudgeon · 04-06-2005, 12:05 AM

Actually, my life is really great. With few exceptions, I get to do whatever I feel like doing when I feel like doing it. So, I'm really not unhappy.

When folks start toget rhapsodic about the most meaningless of events - like an interview that reveals that Patrick Ramsey likes cuddley kittens and does not enjoy having a proctological exam - it is time to add a small measure of reality to the discussion. If you prefer to continue to hand on every word that drops in interviews such as these, go right ahead. But they don't mean squadoosh!

Oh, by the way, rasslin' is indeed "predetermined" in terms of its outcome. Just wanted everyone to be sure they were on board with that...

That Guy · 04-06-2005, 12:13 AM

wrestling is fixed?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?????

JoeRedskin · 04-06-2005, 12:39 AM

But SC, what if I don't want reality? Reality is a depressing 6-10 season. I don't want even a dose of that until I must, in fact, accept it. So, in the offseason, let me please imagine that PR's affinity for cuddly kittens will ensure that next season we are in the Superbowl.

Perhaps, just perhaps, we recognize the absurdity of such an event choose not to acknowledge it.

AND wrestling is NOT fixed. It only pretends to be fixed to confuse those who don't think it's real.

John Hasbrouck · 04-06-2005, 12:50 AM

According to Ramsey the foot operation he had March of 04 really set him back. Physically he could not workout. wasn't able to do anything till 3rd mini camp in June. Still was not rehab much and learning another offensive system. Ramsey says he is ready to lead the team back this year.

EternalEnigma21 · 04-06-2005, 03:02 AM

It probly didnt help his foot when my 280 lb ass stepped on it in his little blue boot christmas shopping at Nordstrom's year before last.

Mattyk · 04-06-2005, 09:09 AM

SC is right, it was pretty much a fluff interview, not much different from what Skins.com had, and that was fluff too.

That being said, since it's an extremely slow time for news right now, of course we're going to eat up whatever little nugget we're fed!

Schneed10 · 04-06-2005, 09:54 AM

Sure it's a fluff interview, but is there reason to think that Ramsey doesn't believe what he said? We'd all expect Ramsey to paint a rosy picture, but that doesn't mean that Ramsey is necessarily exaggerating.

Looking at the recap:
"Says its been great for him to play in different offenses (Spurrier & Gibbs)...says he feels that gives him an advantage and now it's time for him to step up and perform. Added that they went from a pass oriented offense to a run oriented offense last year and this year he hopes the offense is more balanced." I would agree with that, in today's NFL with all the player and system turnover, you're at an advantage if you can adjust to change more quickly. Ramsey has dealt with change before, so if Gibbs brings in new WRs and add downfield passes, I think Ramsey believes he'll be ready to deal with that change.

"Mentioned that there was a stat that stated that if the Redskins had scored one more touchdown and each game, they would have been 11 - 5 last season. Basically stated they were very close to being a winning team." So true in the NFL, it's a fine line between winning and losing.

"His relationship with Brunell is great. Considers Mark his best friend on the team." This part I think is exaggerated, I thought he and Jansen were best buds, they go hunting and stuff. But still, I see no reason to believe his relationship with Brunell isn't a good one.

"Spoke very highly of Joe Gibbs...basically says he[Gibbs] is everything and more than what people say about Joe Gibbs(those that actually say good things about the man.)" Would he trash Gibbs on TV? No. Have you ever heard a former player trash Gibbs? No. Ramsey loves him just like everyone else does.

So what does all this mean? Not a lot, you're right about that SC. But just because Ramsey is supposed to say all the right things doesn't mean he doesn't believe them. I think he has faith in the team's direction and I think he truly believes they'll be good this year.

Daseal · 04-06-2005, 10:06 AM

Didn't Riggins say some fairly harsh things about the coaching staff during the season?

Mattyk · 04-06-2005, 10:10 AM

Riggins says anything that will draw attention to himself. I love the guy as a player, off the field is a different story.

jermus22 · 04-06-2005, 10:28 AM

Yeah, I'm not big on being negative about the interview. I agree that most of it is fluff, but from all I know about Ramsey, he is a good guy and a team player which makes his statements more believable. If he continues to build on last season's progress, we could make the wildcard playoffs this year. Expect big things from his this season.

04-05-2005, 09:26 PM	#16
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 31 Posts: 5,394	Re: NFL Network's Breakdown on Ramsey thanks, I wish he said that hes been workign hard with the receivers alreayd. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

04-05-2005, 11:42 PM	#18
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: NFL Network's Breakdown on Ramsey Was anyone surprised at anything reported here? He did what athletes are taught to do these days; praise everyone and everything and mention how hard you are working and how you need to take your game to the next level. :frusty: Even if he believed that Joe Gibbs was a senile old fool who could not put his own Depends on without assistance {I'm sure Ramsey does not think that!] he would not say it. He'd say that Gibbs is a wonderful and creative genius who thinks only about winning and making each roster member a better person and player tomorrow than he is today. Recap of interview: 1. Information Content = ZERO 2. Fan evaluation = Warm and Fuzzy 3. Team Evaluation = Excellent because now it is over and no one wet themselves in the process. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

04-05-2005, 11:52 PM	#19
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 44 Posts: 4,576	Re: NFL Network's Breakdown on Ramsey C'mon, Sports! WHat's next? You'll be telling us there's no Santa Claus and that wrestling is fixed! ;>) __________________ Hail from Houston!

04-06-2005, 12:05 AM	#21
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: NFL Network's Breakdown on Ramsey Actually, my life is really great. With few exceptions, I get to do whatever I feel like doing when I feel like doing it. So, I'm really not unhappy. When folks start toget rhapsodic about the most meaningless of events - like an interview that reveals that Patrick Ramsey likes cuddley kittens and does not enjoy having a proctological exam - it is time to add a small measure of reality to the discussion. If you prefer to continue to hand on every word that drops in interviews such as these, go right ahead. But they don't mean squadoosh! Oh, by the way, rasslin' is indeed "predetermined" in terms of its outcome. Just wanted everyone to be sure they were on board with that... __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

04-06-2005, 12:13 AM	#22
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,644	Re: NFL Network's Breakdown on Ramsey wrestling is fixed?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!????? __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

04-06-2005, 12:39 AM	#23
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 50 Posts: 7,220	Re: NFL Network's Breakdown on Ramsey But SC, what if I don't want reality? Reality is a depressing 6-10 season. I don't want even a dose of that until I must, in fact, accept it. So, in the offseason, let me please imagine that PR's affinity for cuddly kittens will ensure that next season we are in the Superbowl. Perhaps, just perhaps, we recognize the absurdity of such an event choose not to acknowledge it. AND wrestling is NOT fixed. It only pretends to be fixed to confuse those who don't think it's real.

04-06-2005, 12:50 AM	#24
John Hasbrouck Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 180	Re: NFL Network's Breakdown on Ramsey According to Ramsey the foot operation he had March of 04 really set him back. Physically he could not workout. wasn't able to do anything till 3rd mini camp in June. Still was not rehab much and learning another offensive system. Ramsey says he is ready to lead the team back this year.

04-06-2005, 03:02 AM	#25
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Warrenton VA Age: 33 Posts: 2,953	Re: NFL Network's Breakdown on Ramsey It probly didnt help his foot when my 280 lb ass stepped on it in his little blue boot christmas shopping at Nordstrom's year before last.

04-06-2005, 09:09 AM	#26
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 73,194	Re: NFL Network's Breakdown on Ramsey SC is right, it was pretty much a fluff interview, not much different from what Skins.com had, and that was fluff too. That being said, since it's an extremely slow time for news right now, of course we're going to eat up whatever little nugget we're fed! __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

04-06-2005, 09:54 AM	#27
Schneed10 RG Glee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 33 Posts: 7,918	Re: NFL Network's Breakdown on Ramsey Sure it's a fluff interview, but is there reason to think that Ramsey doesn't believe what he said? We'd all expect Ramsey to paint a rosy picture, but that doesn't mean that Ramsey is necessarily exaggerating. Looking at the recap: "Says its been great for him to play in different offenses (Spurrier & Gibbs)...says he feels that gives him an advantage and now it's time for him to step up and perform. Added that they went from a pass oriented offense to a run oriented offense last year and this year he hopes the offense is more balanced." I would agree with that, in today's NFL with all the player and system turnover, you're at an advantage if you can adjust to change more quickly. Ramsey has dealt with change before, so if Gibbs brings in new WRs and add downfield passes, I think Ramsey believes he'll be ready to deal with that change. "Mentioned that there was a stat that stated that if the Redskins had scored one more touchdown and each game, they would have been 11 - 5 last season. Basically stated they were very close to being a winning team." So true in the NFL, it's a fine line between winning and losing. "His relationship with Brunell is great. Considers Mark his best friend on the team." This part I think is exaggerated, I thought he and Jansen were best buds, they go hunting and stuff. But still, I see no reason to believe his relationship with Brunell isn't a good one. "Spoke very highly of Joe Gibbs...basically says he[Gibbs] is everything and more than what people say about Joe Gibbs(those that actually say good things about the man.)" Would he trash Gibbs on TV? No. Have you ever heard a former player trash Gibbs? No. Ramsey loves him just like everyone else does. So what does all this mean? Not a lot, you're right about that SC. But just because Ramsey is supposed to say all the right things doesn't mean he doesn't believe them. I think he has faith in the team's direction and I think he truly believes they'll be good this year.

04-06-2005, 10:06 AM	#28
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,072	Re: NFL Network's Breakdown on Ramsey Didn't Riggins say some fairly harsh things about the coaching staff during the season? __________________ Best. Player. Available.

04-06-2005, 10:10 AM	#29
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 73,194	Re: NFL Network's Breakdown on Ramsey Riggins says anything that will draw attention to himself. I love the guy as a player, off the field is a different story. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

04-06-2005, 10:28 AM	#30
jermus22 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Martinsburg, WV Age: 30 Posts: 334	Re: NFL Network's Breakdown on Ramsey Yeah, I'm not big on being negative about the interview. I agree that most of it is fluff, but from all I know about Ramsey, he is a good guy and a team player which makes his statements more believable. If he continues to build on last season's progress, we could make the wildcard playoffs this year. Expect big things from his this season. __________________ Win it in the trenches.

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