Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts

gortiz · 04-07-2005, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ChounsMan

What happened to players who played for the pride of the game & not just for the $$$

Football players are losing their objectivity.

"The great trouble with baseball today is that most of the players are in the game for the money and that's it, not for the love of it, the excitement of it, the thrill of it." Ty Cobb - 1924

I know its a different sport, but that was the thinking 81 years ago. Its all a cycle man. . . But I digress.

I think that Moss not showing up is HUGE red flag, and if Taylor isn't showing up because of his contract and his contributions with his long and storied career, that is A HUGE FREAKING RED FLAG. . ..

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-07-2005, 10:45 AM

I'm hoping that's not the case, but it very well may be.

Mattyk · 04-07-2005, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by wewhite3

I'm laughing at all of you who thought that this was going to be a Patriot thing......wake up Dorthy were not in Kansas anymore.....LOL

First off, even the Patriots have problems from time to time.

Second, before we all get crazy here, let's remember these are "voluntary" workouts.

Do I wish everyone was there, sure.

Is the season over and both Taylor and Moss are flops because they aren't attending these sessions, definitely not.

Let's keep things in perspective. If this was training camp I'd be worried.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-07-2005, 10:45 AM

I am going to agree with TAFKAS (I think he's the one who said it), Taylor truly did get a minimal contract for someone of his stature. I'm sure he could go about it more tactfully, but he does have reason to want to restructure.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-07-2005, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

First off, even the Patriots have problems from time to time.

Second, before we all get crazy here, let's remember these are "voluntary" workouts.

Do I wish everyone was there, sure.

Is the season over and both Taylor and Moss are flops because they aren't attending these sessions, definitely not.

Let's keep things in perspective. If this was training camp I'd be worried.

Exactly.

SmootSmack · 04-07-2005, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I am going to agree with TAFKAS (I think he's the one who said it), Taylor truly did get a minimal contract for someone of his stature. I'm sure he could go about it more tactfully, but he does have reason to want to restructure.

I didn't say it, but keep agreeing with me!

PSUSkinsFan21 · 04-07-2005, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by irish

The redskins really need to start drafting/signing a different type of player. Talent is fine but its not enough, the skins need to focus more on the player's inteligence/maturity/work ethic. NE is the best example of this, sure they have talent (every nfl team does) but they also have the highest team % of college graduate players. I think this team intelligence is at least as much if not more important a factor in their run than the football talent.

The skins need to stop signing player with million dollar bodies and 2 cent heads. When the do, they will start winning titles.

Absolutely agree. Very well said.

skins009 · 04-07-2005, 10:54 AM

Bottom line is that Moss is clearly retarded. So someone correct me if i'm wrong, he's coming off a VERY average, he's entering a contract year, and yet he doesn't show up. Wow. Hey Moss you want a big contract how about you have a big year first, and then get your contract. He clearly isn't worth big money, he' got to prove himself. But hey knowing the skins, they'll probably overpay.

mooby · 04-07-2005, 11:08 AM

yeah they might. but i don't understand sean taylor. if they gave him an incentive based contract last year and he performed and got his money, why is he complaining about it? this isn't just a problem with the redskins where former miami players go back to workout there. it's a leaguewide problem.st and moss aren't the only players at miami's workout. ed reed and ray lewis are probably down there too. and see what the ravens fans say about them. if st performed well, give him his contract. but im dissapointed in moss. he hasn't even played a down with the skins yet and he's already decided he can do what he wants. i say we give him a good contract at the end of the season if he performs well.

Daseal · 04-07-2005, 11:16 AM

Taylor got hosed on his rookie contract - let's keep him happy, not piss him off for 6 more years. Give him a moderate contract which he will quickly outgrow. I feel that within two years he will be the best player on our defense without a doubt!

Moss isn't the elite receiver he thinks he is. The whole Coles trade may pan out to be a huge mess. I want everyone there, but Moss is new and needs to build a chemistry with Ramsey, it's going to be hard to be a #1 when Ramsey prefers another WR over you.

Also, know what an incentive based contract does for you when your career is ended by an unlucky hit?

RedskinRat · 04-07-2005, 11:18 AM

They're young and they want to hang with their crew while they work out, I don't care. We had the same stuff last season with Taylor and he worked out fine. I do think that he'll look bakc on it at some point and feel stupid, peer pressure is a hell of a thing.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-07-2005, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I didn't say it, but keep agreeing with me!

Hahaha. Sorry, I didn't mean to misquote you. I'll do my best to keep on being very agreeable. LOL

celts32 · 04-07-2005, 11:30 AM

Moss not being there is very damaging to Ramsey's progress I think. ST should be there sure and he's a head case but I really don't see it affecting the season much. Moss not being there is a big problem. Frankly, the Redskins need full participation from everyone involved in that passing game.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-07-2005, 11:31 AM

Moss especially if he wants the bucks of a #1 receiver.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 04-07-2005, 01:03 PM

People turned on Coles in a heartbeat....what do those people have to say about Moss?

Coles told friends he was going to "sit out" of team meetings, camp, etc. But Moss is...WTF? Sounds like Coles is more of a team guy than Moss.

04-07-2005, 10:45 AM	#32
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,120	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts I'm hoping that's not the case, but it very well may be. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-07-2005, 10:45 AM	#34
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,120	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts I am going to agree with TAFKAS (I think he's the one who said it), Taylor truly did get a minimal contract for someone of his stature. I'm sure he could go about it more tactfully, but he does have reason to want to restructure. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-07-2005, 10:54 AM	#38
skins009 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 528	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts Bottom line is that Moss is clearly retarded. So someone correct me if i'm wrong, he's coming off a VERY average, he's entering a contract year, and yet he doesn't show up. Wow. Hey Moss you want a big contract how about you have a big year first, and then get your contract. He clearly isn't worth big money, he' got to prove himself. But hey knowing the skins, they'll probably overpay.

04-07-2005, 11:08 AM	#39
mooby MVP Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 24 Posts: 11,179	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts yeah they might. but i don't understand sean taylor. if they gave him an incentive based contract last year and he performed and got his money, why is he complaining about it? this isn't just a problem with the redskins where former miami players go back to workout there. it's a leaguewide problem.st and moss aren't the only players at miami's workout. ed reed and ray lewis are probably down there too. and see what the ravens fans say about them. if st performed well, give him his contract. but im dissapointed in moss. he hasn't even played a down with the skins yet and he's already decided he can do what he wants. i say we give him a good contract at the end of the season if he performs well.

04-07-2005, 11:16 AM	#40
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts Taylor got hosed on his rookie contract - let's keep him happy, not piss him off for 6 more years. Give him a moderate contract which he will quickly outgrow. I feel that within two years he will be the best player on our defense without a doubt! Moss isn't the elite receiver he thinks he is. The whole Coles trade may pan out to be a huge mess. I want everyone there, but Moss is new and needs to build a chemistry with Ramsey, it's going to be hard to be a #1 when Ramsey prefers another WR over you. Also, know what an incentive based contract does for you when your career is ended by an unlucky hit? __________________ Best. Player. Available.

04-07-2005, 11:18 AM	#41
RedskinRat Born a Rocker,Die a Rocker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 6,812	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts They're young and they want to hang with their crew while they work out, I don't care. We had the same stuff last season with Taylor and he worked out fine. I do think that he'll look bakc on it at some point and feel stupid, peer pressure is a hell of a thing.

04-07-2005, 11:30 AM	#43
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 41 Posts: 2,643	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts Moss not being there is very damaging to Ramsey's progress I think. ST should be there sure and he's a head case but I really don't see it affecting the season much. Moss not being there is a big problem. Frankly, the Redskins need full participation from everyone involved in that passing game.

04-07-2005, 11:31 AM	#44
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,120	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts Moss especially if he wants the bucks of a #1 receiver. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-07-2005, 01:03 PM	#45
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 8,317	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts People turned on Coles in a heartbeat....what do those people have to say about Moss? Coles told friends he was going to "sit out" of team meetings, camp, etc. But Moss is...WTF? Sounds like Coles is more of a team guy than Moss.

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