(rumor) lavar on crutches again after another surgery

Balmerskinsfan · 04-12-2005, 01:36 PM

In terms of the support from [team officials], it's like nothing," Arrington said before leaving Redskins Park early this afternoon. "It's like, just let me disappear and die. To me it kind of [stinks]; it [stinks], because it's not like I have a relationship built with [the coaches] anyway, because they're new and then I get hurt and every year it's always someone new [as a head coach]. Does that mean it's right the way it's being handled? . . . It makes you wonder, man, what's their agenda?"

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Shut up, you fucking crybaby. Wipe your tears and blow your nose on a Benjy, you bitch. What's their agenda? Their agenda is to win, asshole. You sitting on the bench sucking up cap money and whining doesn't help. If you can't play because of injury, fine, sit out another season, but stop blubbering.

irish · 04-12-2005, 01:39 PM

I totally agree Daesal. No other team would have given LA a contract like the skins gave him in addition, LaVar's contract just is not in line with what he has been contributing to the team. He's a good player but not great and is making great player money.

I hope I'm wrong but I am really thinking LA's contract is as bad as the one the skins signed with Deion.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 04-12-2005, 01:41 PM

Actually it's kind of funny to see people so sure that Lavar wouldn't have gotten the same contract elsewhere. You see, you have absolutely no way of knowing that because Lavar didn't even test free agency. Rather than dic# around with the skins, he signed the long term deal without regard to whether he could have done better in free agency. And now he gets killed for it. Now people want to cry about how much the contract is killing us. You're rediculous. When he signed his contract had already been a pro bowler more than once and he was in his early 20s. He was also universally regarded around the league as one of the top 3 or 4 OLBs in the league, with NOTHING BUT UPSIDE on the horizon. Yet somehow, some of you speculate that no other team in the NFL would have offered him the same deal. I guess the skins are just the stupidest team in the league then, right?

I just can't believe this. This is how we treat one of the few consistent pro bowlers we've had over the last 5 years? A guy who has said numerous times he wants to be a career Redskin, and unlike so many that have come and gone since then, has actually done everything he can to be a career Redskin. And this is how Skins fans repay him? He gets injured and we spend our time talking about how overrated he is anyway and trying to come up with ways of cutting him. God Forbid Samuels gets hurt next year, we'll be devoting a whole thread to trying to find ways to cut his a$$ too.......because he's just so overpaid and he would have never gotten the same contract from anyone else. It's just absurd. I guess the lesson Lavar should learn is that you should just go ahead and test free agency and bleed everything you can out of your team because the fans are just going to see you as a burden the first time in your career that you let them down because you had to get knee surgery because you don't know how to play at less than 100%. Great lesson guys.

Redskins_P · 04-12-2005, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

Actually it's kind of funny to see people so sure that Lavar wouldn't have gotten the same contract elsewhere. You see, you have absolutely no way of knowing that because Lavar didn't even test free agency. Rather than dic# around with the skins, he signed the long term deal without regard to whether he could have done better in free agency. And now he gets killed for it. Now people want to cry about how much the contract is killing us. You're rediculous. When he signed his contract had already been a pro bowler more than once and he was in his early 20s. He was also universally regarded around the league as one of the top 3 or 4 OLBs in the league, with NOTHING BUT UPSIDE on the horizon. Yet somehow, some of you speculate that no other team in the NFL would have offered him the same deal. I guess the skins are just the stupidest team in the league then, right?

I just can't believe this. This is how we treat one of the few consistent pro bowlers we've had over the last 5 years? A guy who has said numerous times he wants to be a career Redskin, and unlike so many that have come and gone since then, has actually done everything he can to be a career Redskin. And this is how Skins fans repay him? He gets injured and we spend our time talking about how overrated he is anyway and trying to come up with ways of cutting him. God Forbid Samuels gets hurt next year, we'll be devoting a whole thread to trying to find ways to cut his a$$ too.......because he's just so overpaid and he would have never gotten the same contract from anyone else. It's just absurd. I guess the lesson Lavar should learn is that you should just go ahead and test free agency and bleed everything you can out of your team because the fans are just going to see you as a burden the first time in your career that you let them down because you had to get knee surgery because you don't know how to play at less than 100%. Great lesson guys.

I totally agree PSU!

Balmerskinsfan · 04-12-2005, 01:47 PM

I personally don't feel that Lavarr is over-rated, and I was happy to see him sign the long term contract with us, but it pisses me off to no end when guys piss and moan while they sit on the bench. The coaching staff didn't cause LA's injury, so what the hell is he talking about? The skins are going to let him take his sweet time healing up, as they should- we'll be better with him, but our defense is going to be competitive regardless thanks to Willams. But LA should shut up, rehab, and earn his keep.

irish · 04-12-2005, 02:04 PM

I couldnt care less whether LA wants to be a career redskin or not. What I do care about is the redskins winning the super bowl and right now the team appears to be hamstrung in that effort by a bad contract with a disgruntled player. Redskin fans and the organization need to focus on the organization winning and what that will take instead of worrying about whether one player will get his feelings hurt by being criticized/traded/cut for the betterment of the team.

Redskins_P · 04-12-2005, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

I couldnt care less whether LA wants to be a career redskin or not. What I do care about is the redskins winning the super bowl and right now the team appears to be hamstrung in that effort by a bad contract with a disgruntled player. Redskin fans and the organization need to focus on the organization winning and what that will take instead of worrying about whether one player will get his feelings hurt by being criticized/traded/cut for the betterment of the team.

How is ONE contract keeping us from winning a SB? Come on now.....let's be realistic!

PSUSkinsFan21 · 04-12-2005, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskins_P

How is ONE contract keeping us from winning a SB? Come on now.....let's be realistic!

I'm with you. Doesn't make sense to me.

irish · 04-12-2005, 02:14 PM

I didnt say 1 contract is keeping the team from the SB, what I'm saying is that the skins are cap strapped and LA contract seems to be a big contributor to that problem and because the team's options are limited due to being strapped their ability to assemble the players needed to win the SB could be being hampered.

Redskins_P · 04-12-2005, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irish

I didnt say 1 contract is keeping the team from the SB, what I'm saying is that the skins are cap strapped and LA contract seems to be a big contributor to that problem and because the team's options are limited due to being strapped their ability to assemble the players needed to win the SB could be being hampered.

Ok, I understand what you're saying, but we can't blame our inability to assemble players needed to win the SB on LA's contract. That blame would have to go to our FO. They're the ones going out getting the players.

Say what you want about LA.......just remember that he's not going anywhere.

irish · 04-12-2005, 02:28 PM

I agree the blame goes to the FO, they got the team into this position by signing bad contracts and making bad deals.

I dont care if LA stays his entire career or goes tomorrow as long as the redskins win. Player come and players go but the team is forever and that's who I want to win.

Daseal · 04-12-2005, 02:36 PM

Our inability to get players is hinged on many big contracts, LaVar's is one of the biggest. I think Samuels got a larger bonus but less overall -- something like that.

I hope what you say is true, and before you joined certain people weren't high on Arrington, PSUskins. It's not like this is a new thing. As I've said he's a good player -- but not fitting of the contract.

I'd trade Takeo Spikes for LaVar any day of the week!

CrazyCanuck · 04-12-2005, 02:40 PM

Who is Lavar Arrington?

Personally I'm tired of all the drama - the licensing rights, the $6.5M, the knee, the new coaches, blah blah blah...

Wake me up if/when this guy hits the field again.

Daseal · 04-12-2005, 02:47 PM

Don't forget that he wants a say in personel decesions! Because LaVar almost skipped the NFL to become a talent scout!

BigSKINBauer · 04-12-2005, 03:01 PM

http://play.rbn.com/?url=nfl/nfl/ope...=rtsp&rbnkey=1

press conference just for the whiner!

Gibbs says that lavar got mad at gibbs for not putting his ass in and now he is bitchn
I hope it is just him getting frustrated w/ the injury

04-12-2005, 01:36 PM	#61
Balmerskinsfan Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 66	Re: (rumor) lavar on crutches again after another surgery In terms of the support from [team officials], it's like nothing," Arrington said before leaving Redskins Park early this afternoon. "It's like, just let me disappear and die. To me it kind of [stinks]; it [stinks], because it's not like I have a relationship built with [the coaches] anyway, because they're new and then I get hurt and every year it's always someone new [as a head coach]. Does that mean it's right the way it's being handled? . . . It makes you wonder, man, what's their agenda?" AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Shut up, you fucking crybaby. Wipe your tears and blow your nose on a Benjy, you bitch. What's their agenda? Their agenda is to win, asshole. You sitting on the bench sucking up cap money and whining doesn't help. If you can't play because of injury, fine, sit out another season, but stop blubbering.

04-12-2005, 01:39 PM	#62
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,533	Re: (rumor) lavar on crutches again after another surgery I totally agree Daesal. No other team would have given LA a contract like the skins gave him in addition, LaVar's contract just is not in line with what he has been contributing to the team. He's a good player but not great and is making great player money. I hope I'm wrong but I am really thinking LA's contract is as bad as the one the skins signed with Deion.

04-12-2005, 01:41 PM	#63
PSUSkinsFan21 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 37 Posts: 1,340	Re: (rumor) lavar on crutches again after another surgery Actually it's kind of funny to see people so sure that Lavar wouldn't have gotten the same contract elsewhere. You see, you have absolutely no way of knowing that because Lavar didn't even test free agency. Rather than dic# around with the skins, he signed the long term deal without regard to whether he could have done better in free agency. And now he gets killed for it. Now people want to cry about how much the contract is killing us. You're rediculous. When he signed his contract had already been a pro bowler more than once and he was in his early 20s. He was also universally regarded around the league as one of the top 3 or 4 OLBs in the league, with NOTHING BUT UPSIDE on the horizon. Yet somehow, some of you speculate that no other team in the NFL would have offered him the same deal. I guess the skins are just the stupidest team in the league then, right? I just can't believe this. This is how we treat one of the few consistent pro bowlers we've had over the last 5 years? A guy who has said numerous times he wants to be a career Redskin, and unlike so many that have come and gone since then, has actually done everything he can to be a career Redskin. And this is how Skins fans repay him? He gets injured and we spend our time talking about how overrated he is anyway and trying to come up with ways of cutting him. God Forbid Samuels gets hurt next year, we'll be devoting a whole thread to trying to find ways to cut his a$$ too.......because he's just so overpaid and he would have never gotten the same contract from anyone else. It's just absurd. I guess the lesson Lavar should learn is that you should just go ahead and test free agency and bleed everything you can out of your team because the fans are just going to see you as a burden the first time in your career that you let them down because you had to get knee surgery because you don't know how to play at less than 100%. Great lesson guys. __________________ "Hail to the Redskins!" and "Fight on State!"

04-12-2005, 01:47 PM	#65
Balmerskinsfan Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 66	Re: (rumor) lavar on crutches again after another surgery I personally don't feel that Lavarr is over-rated, and I was happy to see him sign the long term contract with us, but it pisses me off to no end when guys piss and moan while they sit on the bench. The coaching staff didn't cause LA's injury, so what the hell is he talking about? The skins are going to let him take his sweet time healing up, as they should- we'll be better with him, but our defense is going to be competitive regardless thanks to Willams. But LA should shut up, rehab, and earn his keep.

04-12-2005, 02:04 PM	#66
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,533	Re: (rumor) lavar on crutches again after another surgery I couldnt care less whether LA wants to be a career redskin or not. What I do care about is the redskins winning the super bowl and right now the team appears to be hamstrung in that effort by a bad contract with a disgruntled player. Redskin fans and the organization need to focus on the organization winning and what that will take instead of worrying about whether one player will get his feelings hurt by being criticized/traded/cut for the betterment of the team.

04-12-2005, 02:14 PM	#69
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,533	Re: (rumor) lavar on crutches again after another surgery I didnt say 1 contract is keeping the team from the SB, what I'm saying is that the skins are cap strapped and LA contract seems to be a big contributor to that problem and because the team's options are limited due to being strapped their ability to assemble the players needed to win the SB could be being hampered.

04-12-2005, 02:28 PM	#71
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,533	Re: (rumor) lavar on crutches again after another surgery I agree the blame goes to the FO, they got the team into this position by signing bad contracts and making bad deals. I dont care if LA stays his entire career or goes tomorrow as long as the redskins win. Player come and players go but the team is forever and that's who I want to win.

04-12-2005, 02:36 PM	#72
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,173	Re: (rumor) lavar on crutches again after another surgery Our inability to get players is hinged on many big contracts, LaVar's is one of the biggest. I think Samuels got a larger bonus but less overall -- something like that. I hope what you say is true, and before you joined certain people weren't high on Arrington, PSUskins. It's not like this is a new thing. As I've said he's a good player -- but not fitting of the contract. I'd trade Takeo Spikes for LaVar any day of the week! __________________ Best. Player. Available.

04-12-2005, 02:40 PM	#73
CrazyCanuck F the Shannys Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,863	Re: (rumor) lavar on crutches again after another surgery Who is Lavar Arrington? Personally I'm tired of all the drama - the licensing rights, the $6.5M, the knee, the new coaches, blah blah blah... Wake me up if/when this guy hits the field again.

04-12-2005, 02:47 PM	#74
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,173	Re: (rumor) lavar on crutches again after another surgery Don't forget that he wants a say in personel decesions! Because LaVar almost skipped the NFL to become a talent scout! __________________ Best. Player. Available.

04-12-2005, 03:01 PM	#75
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: College Park; where they chop cars Age: 25 Posts: 5,635	Re: (rumor) lavar on crutches again after another surgery http://play.rbn.com/?url=nfl/nfl/ope...=rtsp&rbnkey=1 press conference just for the whiner! Gibbs says that lavar got mad at gibbs for not putting his ass in and now he is bitchn I hope it is just him getting frustrated w/ the injury

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