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Old 04-26-2005, 10:55 PM   #61
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To me 83 and 04 look fairly similar in terms of receptions.

I don't doubt you're diehard, nor do I doubt it about anyone on the site. I wasn't trying to crack on your dedication, I'm more than sure it's there. The problem is people on this site being accused of it.
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Old 04-27-2005, 12:16 AM   #62
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Skinsguy and CRT3, You two aren't exactly open to other interpretations either. I think it's funny how you'll blast someone for it but can't possibly fathom it was Gibbs that held this team back last year. If you want to criticize someone for being closed minded, look to yourself first before you make that accusation.

The thing is, when it comes to things like this Offiss is pretty damn correct most of the time. He gave you hard numbers to look at, and you can't really say anything to it besides bringing it down to a personal level. He also seems to know a hell of a lot about the Giants. Someone was arguing with him about LT and he was right - something TAFKAS found an article on.

Offiss doesn't drink the Kool-aid, and he doesn't just follow someone and support their actions no matter what. He's normally a very objective person and will give credit where credit is due. If he has different views from you, so what. They joy is this board used to be able to argue their side without someone launching some sort of personal attack on them. Lately that seems to be changing.

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Old 04-27-2005, 12:20 AM   #63
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Daseal,

Talk about someone bringing something down to a personal level..you have just done so in one post and whatever conversation/argument that Off and I were having had nothing to do with you whatsoever.
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Old 04-27-2005, 12:35 AM   #64
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I'm not attacking you whatsoever. I'm guessing you're referring to the first paragraph since the rest couldn't remotely be judged as biased towards you. I was saying how you guys like to blast people and bring them down when they have a different opinion from yours. I will gladly find you some examples if you like.

I also didn't bring it to a "personal level" in that respect. I didn't start to say you're not a fan, or you're an idiot for thinking Gibbs offense can still work. There's a difference between saying what you see, and slandering someone.
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Old 04-27-2005, 12:49 AM   #65
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Old 04-27-2005, 12:59 AM   #66
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Yes, you are attacking me Daseal. And what is worse, you're using a public thread to do so instead of settling it maturely with private messaging. What's more, you have brought this to a personal level by singling me out. I have never posted, "Daseal, you're not a Redskins fan." I have posted something along the lines of, "Some here apparently are fair weather fans or quick to jump off the bandwagon when things go wrong..." which is the truth. If you felt you were guilty of such, then so be it, but I haven't singled you out.

And yes, I disagree with you quite often and feel I have a right to disagree with you by posting my thoughts and feelings like anyone else does. When I do, I base my opinions on personal experience of watching this football team since the early 1980's and following them very closely up until the present. If you think I'm blasting you - sorry, but I'm just stating my opinion on what I know works and what I'm pretty sure doesn't.
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Old 04-27-2005, 01:16 AM   #67
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Explain how I'm attacking you? You say that people are fairweather fans in every other post it seems like. Any post that at all shows Gibbs in a negative light you think someone's a fairweather fan. If people are still fans now, it's doubtfull they're going to be leaving now. This hasn't exactly been the golden age as far as the Redskins gaining fans. The thing is Redskins fans are some of the most loyal in the business. We always hate our players and our coaches but love the team.

I singled both you and CRT3 out in this thread, I don't deny that whatsoever. CRT3 didn't seem upset by what I said and I feel that he and I mended a fence to a point because of what I said and him responding.

I also feel you have the right to disagree with me just as much as I have the right to disagree with you. That's what I like about this board. The problem is it turns into an I'm right you're wrong argument, which isn't the way it should be. You seem to have an overly confrontational attitude, that's how you are. I've made points, using numbers, and you've still refused to say that there was anything wrong with Gibbs offense. A fact most people have slowly come to reverse and admit that it wasn't all that last year. Am I saying it can't change, not at all. I hope he opens it up and becomes the master of adjustments once again - from what I saw last year we didn't get much of that.

Though you haven't said straight up "Daseal, you're not a Redskin fan." You've done similar things, and I promise you that less than 1% of this board isn't what you'd call fairweather. Granted I haven't had the luxury of remember the skins games since the early 80s (born in 83) I have watched them for as long as I can remember. I distinctly remember when Gibbs won his 3rd superbowl I was very young, and all the adults were pissed because I won the super bowl party pool! I got like 200 bucks... which for your information equates to one hell of a lot of gummi bears!

Either way, I have nothing personal against you and I hope you don't against me. I will gladly argue with you all the time, and all I ask is you don't take it personal. I'm sorry if you took my previous thread personally, I certainly didn't mean it in that sense.
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Old 04-27-2005, 07:57 AM   #68
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