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Old 04-23-2005, 08:19 PM   #1
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Time to trade Ramsey

Let's face it: We're not likely a playoff team this next year. If Ramsey has a terrible year, we won't resign him. If Ramsey has a terrific year, he's gonna want money we may not be able to afford. Plus after getting dicked around like he has, he may not want to stay here for any kind of money.

It's obvious he's not Gibbs favorite guy and the best thing to do now is get value for the kid while we can. I hate the idea of Brunell starting for a year, but even more I hate the idea of Ramsey leaving at the end of next year for nothing when we should be able to get a MINIMUM of a second round pick for him now. Hell... package him up with Rod Gardener and trade them both for a first rounder next year. Or ship them both to Detroit for one of their WR, since they seem to have an abundance of them now. Get Mike Williams. Have an open competition for QB this year. Maybe Campbell beats out Brunell. But trade Ramsey now (as much as I like him) to get any kind of value out of it we can. It's gonna be much harder to build on nothing when he leaves after the end of next year.
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:22 PM   #2
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Re: Time to trade Ramsey

Let's not get too crazy here, Gibbs isn't going to start a rookie, and he's not going to trade Ramsey away leaving him with one vet and a rookie.
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:24 PM   #3
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Re: Time to trade Ramsey

Are you nuts? Det isn't going to give us Williams for Ramsey and Gardener. The way the Skins front office trades we might get a 5th round and a stick of gum for both of them.
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:27 PM   #4
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Re: Time to trade Ramsey

UM no way, why are you sooooo ready to send away a guy that we drafted and are in the middle of developing as our starter this year? Ramsey may not be our guy, but atleast give the guy a chance. This is football, this is reality, I know what Ramsey has been through sucks, but look at Tom Brady, who would have thought he would have been drafted in the 6th round and become what he has. I wonder what would have happened to him if you were coaching. I am hoping like the rest of the fans that the Redskins know what they are doing.
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:33 PM   #5
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Re: Time to trade Ramsey

If anything it will give Ramsey a shot in the arm like Brees last year.

Jon Jansen said everyone was very upset but after Joe sat them all down it made a lot of sense to them.
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:35 PM   #6
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Re: Time to trade Ramsey

I think that drafting Campbell shows that Gibbs is finished with Brunnel not Ramsey. I think that Campbell has the mobility the Ramsey does not have and we live in a world where 2 good QB's on the roster is a must. If Ramsey does great next year, we could always lock him up on a long term contract and trade Campbell for picks in the next draft. If Ramsey bombs, or walks, or gets hurt, we have a better option than Brunnel to step in.

Also, Gibbs wont start a rookie. Even if Campbell was drafted as the new QB, I don't think Gibbs would start him for three years. Gibbs is just too conservative like that.

I'm not sold on the move, but as far a receivers go, Gardner looked pretty good coming out of college and look what happened. I think we have four number 2 receivers instead of a 1 2 3 and 4. We will have to see how that works out (it has worked well in NE).
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:53 PM   #7
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Re: Time to trade Ramsey

He makes a good point. It may be hard to re-sign Mr. Ramsey. Am I the only one thinking that we may be planning on trading Ramsey and having Brunel be the starter? not that I LIKE this scenario, but I could see it happening.
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:55 PM   #8
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Are you nuts? Det isn't going to give us Williams for Ramsey and Gardener.
Think they'd give up Rogers? They'd rather have a #3 guy who will actually be there.
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Old 04-23-2005, 09:15 PM   #9
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Oh I agree with the overall theory of BigRed. I cant see anyway in which Ramsey stays.
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Old 04-23-2005, 09:50 PM   #10
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Re: Time to trade Ramsey

If Ramsey does well, it doesn't matter how difficult it will be because the Skins will only make a half ass effort like they did with Smoot and Pierce. If he does well he'll be gone. How could they justify giving him big money when they invested a first round pick in Campbell. Everyone points to San Diego. Ultimately, their man is Rivers. That's why he's signed long term and Brees isn't. I think much the same could happen with the Skins.

Best case scenario: Ramsey plays well, they franchise him and get back into the first round next year.
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Old 04-23-2005, 09:59 PM   #11
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Re: Time to trade Ramsey

Maybe we could trade Ramsey and all of next year's draft picks to Denver for Plummer.
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Old 04-23-2005, 10:27 PM   #12
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LMFAO yeah, lets take and throw a redshirt rookie out in the mix and get his confidence shattered so we can be in the same boat we are now in a few years.
Pierce and Smoot aren't worth the money the wanted, or got, and we'll see that very soon. They're pissed because the organization that pays through the ass for half-assed players is trying to move in another direction, but fuckem. If Ramsey pulls his head out of his ass and makes contributes... They'll pay him more money than they wouldve paid Brunell, which is probably more than he'll deserve, unless he turns into a pro-bowler next year.
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Old 04-23-2005, 10:30 PM   #13
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Re: Time to trade Ramsey

We overpay for players, we're idiots. We take a stand and dont overpay for players, we're idiots. We tip our hand in the draft we're idiots, and if we don't we're liars. Hell we should rename the team to the Washington Evilestsandstupidestsonsovbitchesintheleaguewhowil lneverchange.
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Old 04-23-2005, 10:34 PM   #14
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Re: Time to trade Ramsey

If I was P. Ramsey I would demand/hold out for a trade. Why stick around? Last year Gibbs gave a mega deal to Brunnell (AARP member) and this year he gives up 3 picks for Campbell (unproven rook). It doesn't show a lot of trust. Gibbs said in his radio interview that they were looking for the future and that Campbell doesn't in anyway change Patrick's standing. Future? Ramsey can't be but 3 years older than Campbell. And do you really draft someone like this in the first round to be on the bench all these years? If a player is really worth next years 1 & 4 and this years 3 do you really want him on bench. That is three players in high rounds that could make immediate impacts for one player who according to Gibbes will be sitting for the next few years. I have faith in Gibbs but you really got to wonder what is going on.
Everyone needs to remember Ramsey hasn't even started 2 full seasons yet, 23 games. And in that time he went from one end of the spectrum to the other in offenses. Shouldn't we give him some time. For some reason I can see it turning out the same way as when Atlanta traded away a southern QB who wasn't given a full chance. That guy went on to lead GB to a Super Bowl and is a first ballot HOF. I am not saying Ramsey is Favre but he has a great arm and a desire and hasn't been given an opportunity.
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Old 04-23-2005, 10:44 PM   #15
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Re: Time to trade Ramsey

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I think that Campbell has the mobility the Ramsey does not have...
Hate to break it to you but Campbell is a slow poke. He runs 4.69 in the 40 which by definition makes him a pocket passer. While Ramsey improved last year, I'd still take Campbell over him in scrambling.
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