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Old 04-26-2005, 08:50 PM   #61
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Re: JG or GM?

Seriously, we should just hire someone that we call GM and lives in an Emerald Palace. That would seriously satisfy some people.
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Old 04-26-2005, 09:05 PM   #62
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Seriously, we should just hire someone that we call GM and lives in an Emerald Palace. That would seriously satisfy some people.
I've decided to go ahead and give myself the title of General Manager....now about that Emerald Palace
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Old 04-26-2005, 10:01 PM   #63
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Gibbs, and lose the DANNY...
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Old 04-27-2005, 12:46 AM   #64
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Your way off base here, a few play's? Did we give up everything for a few plays for Portis? If your going to make comparisons then get them right, Joe Washington was a third down back, we had a player taking the bulk of the handoff's his name was John Riggins, perhaps you heard of him? In Gibbs system as it stands Portis is a 3rd down back he will never last if we contiue to use him as he was last year, that's why JW wasen't a featured back.

If your not going to build your offense around a particular player and take advantage of his abilities, then you don't give up Champ, a second rd. pick, and 50 mil for him, it's that simple!
We didn't give up Champ Bailey...Champ WANTED to leave - get it straight!

Don't be so condescending! I have not said to bring Portis in for just a few plays - I said to throw in a few plays that Portis excels in while letting him develop with other running formations that made Joe Gibbs a hall of fame coach. And as I have said which is quite logical and exactly how things were in Gibbs 1.0, put the big guy(s) in on short yardage plays because THAT is what was missing from our offense this past season.
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Old 04-27-2005, 01:34 AM   #65
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I've decided to go ahead and give myself the title of General Manager....now about that Emerald Palace
I think that you would make a fine GM...
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Old 04-27-2005, 05:57 AM   #66
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Because Gibbs saw 1600yds and didn't see the scrubs before him who also ran for 1600yds or there abouts in the Denver system, Mike Anderson? Olandis gary? Ruben Droughns? 3 players who were nothing until denver and nothing after they left denver. [Droughns soon to be] he didn't see how Portis obtained those yards and it wasen't power football!
Offiss, do you really believe this? Do you truly think that Joe Gibbs, the winner of three superbowl rings, would look at one statistic (1600 yards) and say he's are guy? I think you need to step back and do some research on the type of man Joe Gibbs is....there is a reason why the Redskins won those rings with him as the head coach. Have some faith in the man, one not-so-great season from Portis doesn't mean it won't work out.
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Old 04-27-2005, 07:27 AM   #67
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Re: JG or GM?

I love how some of you arrogantly assume that those of us who support the idea of having a GM don't actually know what a GM is, and propose that we would be easily mollified if, say, the Redskins simply changed Vinny Cerrato's title to "General Manager", or if they simply hired some Shmoe of the street and gave him the same title.

Read this article, and tell me whether the Redskins' current front office setup adequately exemplifies all of the desirable traits ascribed to "good" general managers in this article:

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...list121803.htm
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Old 04-27-2005, 08:31 AM   #68
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Offiss, do you really believe this? Do you truly think that Joe Gibbs, the winner of three superbowl rings, would look at one statistic (1600 yards) and say he's are guy? I think you need to step back and do some research on the type of man Joe Gibbs is....there is a reason why the Redskins won those rings with him as the head coach. Have some faith in the man, one not-so-great season from Portis doesn't mean it won't work out.
I wouldn't say not-so-great. Maybe not-like-his-first-few-years type of season, but he was getting accustomed to new blocking AND new coaching and players and still managed to be one of the top rushers in the league. Granted, his YPC was MUCH lower this year, I blame (here's my excuses ) that on the blocking schemes earlier in the year along with Brunell not giving ANY passing support.
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not-so-great, not-like-his-first-years, what's the difference? the point is not to give up on Gibbs...he knows what he is doing. A fan doesn't have the behind the scenes knowledge of what goes on when Gibbs picks a player. We shouldn't be throwing out these lame excuses just because he didn't put us in the playoffs in his first season back. I too blame the blocking schemes, but I also blame the lack of o line (missing jansen), really poor qb play in the beginning of the season, and also, not so much a blame but a reason for the poor record was playcalling ( oh, and let's not forget all the dropped balls). basically it's a little bit of everthing that caused us to come out at 6-10. It's not just the playcalling, it's not just the poor o line, it's not just the qb's fault...it's everything....

I'll be the first to admit I don't know a damn thing about running a football team. I don't really know if it is better to have a GM or not in this situation. So I am just going to sit back and watch my favorite team this year coached by my favorite coach. If it doesn't work out again, oh well, it's not like I will ever stop being a Redskin fan. If that were the case I wouldn't be typing this now after the 13 or so miserable seasons since Gibbs first go 'round. I am not a religious man at all but i do have faith in the fact that Gibbs will get the Redskins back to it's winning ways. He said he would when he came back next year and that's all I need.
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Old 04-27-2005, 09:56 AM   #70
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Hmmm OK. I really wasn't talking about Gibbs, but since you bring it up I will. I don't have any doubts he will return the team to greatness. I just think that he's human like everyone else and needs some time to get back into the game. He saw what worked and what didn't last year and I think he's going to make the changes necessary to improve the offense for this year (offensive line pickups were a great start).
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Old 04-27-2005, 02:33 PM   #71
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I agree that he was bullheaded, but I also think he's a man of his word. I think he stuck with Brunell for far too long, but I think it was an honesty issue rather than pride. The jury in my brain is still out as far as his personnel decisions for the future, but honestly it seems like he is building "players" rather than "mercenaries".
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Old 04-27-2005, 11:39 PM   #72
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Exactly right Malcolm! I think having a team of mercenaries has hurt this team more than anything else....
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