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Old 04-27-2005, 04:51 PM   #1
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How bad will this trend get???

here is a link about Anquan Boldin skipping pratice because the cardinals didn't extend his CURRENT contract.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2046233

Read it if you want, but the point of this tread is to ask how bad is it going to get with every player seemingly wanting to "rework" their contracts. It makes me sick. the owners need to do something about this now or it is going to get worse and worse.

DONT SIGN THE CONTRACT IF YOU THINK IT IS UNFAIR!!!!! IF YOU SIGN IT, HONOR IT
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Old 04-27-2005, 04:54 PM   #2
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Re: How bad will this trend get???

it really is getting bad, just players being selfish
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Old 04-27-2005, 04:55 PM   #3
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Re: How bad will this trend get???

we are going to hear the argument about the owners being able to cut you anytime and no guarenteed money, but that is the reason for the huge signing bonuses now...
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Old 04-27-2005, 05:04 PM   #4
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This is exactly what Portis did. Bouldin and Portis are both 2nd round picks, and 2nd round picks do not get big money so now if they play well they just try and get out of the contract. The owners started a bad trend by accomidating some of these guys becasue now it seems to have opened the floodgates.
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Old 04-27-2005, 05:13 PM   #5
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Re: How bad will this trend get???

It is the owners fault for letting this trend start. The worst one I've seen so far was the screwing we got in the Coles deal. How and the hell do you let a guy walk from his contract and still give him his 5mil bonus. I know it was part of a signing bonus but why not renegotiate the bonus for his release. Sorry for opening old wounds this just got me thinking of it.
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Old 04-27-2005, 05:45 PM   #6
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Sorry for opening old wounds this just got me thinking of it.
that is what got me some angry too.


I agree with celts that it is the owners fault and that because of them the floodgates are open....but what now?
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Old 04-27-2005, 05:52 PM   #7
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It's voluntary. Until it's mandatory players can do what they like. When they skip mandatory practices then you can fine the fuck out of them.

If some young buck comes along and steals their starting spot, well, thatís just too bad!
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It's voluntary. Until it's mandatory players can do what they like. When they skip mandatory practices then you can fine the fuck out of them.

If some young buck comes along and steals their starting spot, well, thatís just too bad!
:confused: ...I think you missed the point of this. its not that he is missing voluntary pratice, its that he is forcing a contract, which he signed to be redone in the middle of it
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Old 04-27-2005, 06:47 PM   #9
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The question is, is he being underpaid? I'm sorry to tell you this but the only time one can ask for a raise isn't during their annual salary evaluation.
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Old 04-27-2005, 08:00 PM   #10
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Re: How bad will this trend get???

I have said it all along on more than one occasion that this is a very bad trend that the league should take a serious look at. However, as long as teams continue to accomodate players who desire to regonitiate in the middle of their deals players will continue to attempt it. I think most of us agree that something should be done to curb the notion.
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The question is, is he being underpaid? I'm sorry to tell you this but the only time one can ask for a raise isn't during their annual salary evaluation.
Yeah, but if they say no to the raise, the rest of us still have to come to work.

The real problem here is that the owners should either make offseason workouts mandatory or just don't allow them at all. I know that there are issues with the players association, but it appears that teams really expect their players to attend. If it's important, they need to change the rules, make them mandatory, and be done with it. It's ironic that it's always the richest players that don't attend while the lowest paid players bust thier ass. It says alot about the character of the guys who don't show up.
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Re: How bad will this trend get???

I can see both sides. I agree, if you sign the contract stating you'll play, then play. However, I can understand a second round pick being sick of his first contract. That's bs. Boldin put up huge numbers and I know he wouldn't make a million this year. I wouldn't play for less either. He's worth about 4 or so, he should get it. Portis was putting up 1500 yards for 450k. If you're a top ten guy at your position and you got picked in the second round. I can understand being upset.
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RUNNING for 450k... Doctors save lives for MAYBE 100k.

I know, I know. I have a HUGE problem with the money pro-athletes are paid. I just think a lot of them whine when they are getting paid more money than even the smartest people in this country will ever see.
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Re: How bad will this trend get???

I have excelled in my job. I think I'm going to stop going to "voluntary" meetings that directly affect what I do until they give me a raise. And if that doesn't work, I'll stop showing up to work all together until I get the money I think I deserve. How long do you think that will last???

Pro athletes are disgusting. "I'm not happy with my multi-million dollar contract"...."I came in as an underdog, but have proven that I am a quality player, so I should make that kind of money now, as opposed to the contract I SIGNED." Whatever!!! I respect someone like Smoot who actually played through his rookie deal, then took the big money deal he wanted and had earned, even though it meant leaving the Redskins.
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Old 04-29-2005, 04:33 PM   #15
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Please let's NOT coompare Boldin and T.O. - Owens signed his deal last year, when he thought he was one of the best WR's out there. Turns out he was right, and now he wants more? When you asked T.O. who the best receiver in the league was before his "trade" to Philly, he would have said himself. So Philly isn't the problem there - he created his situation.

Boldin has a better case, but is less likely to pull it off. He may be the best receiver on his team - but he may not. The "Rookie of the Year" in 2003 is nice, but it's 2005-06 now, and your team drafted another WR last year with the second pick. Fitzgerald is goinig to put up good numbers, and Bryant Johnson is pretty good as well. Since you can only throw so many passes in a game (and with Kurt Warner throwing them, a good portion are almost guaranteed to go to the other team), Boldin isn't going to be a 100-catch guy in the coming years. So, even though he is outperforming his contract, he isn't likely to see more money from the Cardinals - and when his contract does end, he won't have the stats to break out on the free agent market.
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