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Old 05-05-2005, 06:11 PM   #91
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woah woah woah. i just heard that because nobody wants freddie mitchell and are going to trade for him, the eagles are gonna release him. they said he might end up in washington. i for one do not want that trash talking idiot on our team. he will make washington look bad. especially after his fat mouth still trash talked about rodney harrison after r.h. made more catches than him in the super bowl (rodney had 2 interceptions, mitchell had one catch)
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Old 05-05-2005, 06:25 PM   #92
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woah woah woah. i just heard that because nobody wants freddie mitchell and are going to trade for him, the eagles are gonna release him. they said he might end up in washington. i for one do not want that trash talking idiot on our team. he will make washington look bad. especially after his fat mouth still trash talked about rodney harrison after r.h. made more catches than him in the super bowl (rodney had 2 interceptions, mitchell had one catch)
I can't see any reason why we would sign Fraudie Mitchell. He'd be about 7th on our depth chart and, as you duly noted, he's an idiot. Just because we were kind enough to take Thrash back and overpay Trotter doesn't mean we want all of Philly's garbage. I sincerely doubt he'll find a new home in Washington.
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Old 05-05-2005, 06:42 PM   #93
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Because the NFC East recycles everyone's garbage. It is terrible how we keep these lame players in the NFC East.
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Old 05-05-2005, 06:48 PM   #94
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it said in the article on nfl.com by adam schefter, the one at the top.
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Old 05-05-2005, 09:42 PM   #95
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No way Gibbs would have him on this team.
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Old 05-05-2005, 09:55 PM   #96
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I respect JJ even more for saying that. Hopefully is will help St wake up but I doubt it. It never ceases to amaze me how people will place themselves in difficult or shady looking situations then be surprised that others see them in a negative fashion. Impressions, whether true or not, are hard to change especially 1st ones. This is why people see Iverson in one light while McNabb is seen in another.
Couldn't have said it better myself, irish.
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Old 05-05-2005, 10:23 PM   #97
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Freddie Mitchell is the LAST player that would ever end up here in DC. No way, no how. He's not a Joe Gibbs guy.
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Does this mean Jon Jansen isn't a team guy? Didn't he throw Sean Taylor under the bus on draft day? At least TO made remarks about a game, Jansen got nasty with the man's personal life.
Which one of them is at Redskins Park working out with his team? That should tell you who the team guy is right there.

Jon Jansen is the longest-tenured Redskin player and a team captain. He has a right to call out teammates if he feels they're letting their teammates down, either on the field or off of it. In fact, I'd say as a senior leader of the team, he has a responsibility to his teammates to promote the rules and principles the coach has laid-out as a roadmap for his team. What was one of the first admonitions Coach Gibbs made to his players when he gathered them for their first team meeting? "Don't embarrass the Redskins."

Sean Taylor put himself in a position to be arrested for DUI in the middle of the season, and make a public mockery of Gibbs' behavior policy. Whether he was found innocent of the charges or not is immaterial at this point (do you think you or I would have escaped those charges so easily?). The damage was done when Taylor was arrested, and that event was the direct result of Taylor's immaturity, irresponsibility and lack of accountability.

As for TO, I don't think his comments about McNabb even remotely resemble any form of leadership, or promote team unity, or reinforce the principles of the coach. Owens might be a veteran and an established star in the league, but you don't enhance team chemistry by spending less than a year with a team before calling out its most popular and affable player, and holding out for a new contract. That's not being a team player, and it's sure as hell not leadership.
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Old 05-05-2005, 10:35 PM   #99
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Very well put joecrisp! TO while supremely talented is also supremely immature as a vet. I think ST will come around and he has been getting some bad advice from others. I am not saying he isn't at fault, but TO has done crazy stuff in his years in the league and hasn't learned a thing from them. Hopefully Sean will get on the right foot here soon.
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Old 05-05-2005, 10:42 PM   #100
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T.O. there or not has on of the strongest off season work outs of all. People he works out with says its more than camp. Sure he should be there, but won't be the first time he hasn't been there or the last.
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Old 05-05-2005, 10:43 PM   #101
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NO doubt abou that, but he is not a team guy...

The other thing is it is going to be a LOOOOOOOng hold out for TO...
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FRPLG - it was a response to you. Remember how you said TO threw McNabb under the bus? I said at least he did it with something about McNabb's play. Not personal life. I guess you forget about the whole innocent until proven guilty thing our country has. It's really neat, see, Taylor didn't do anything wrong. Believe it or not guys, a majority of cops you meet are assholes, especially if you're a young, rich, black man. Especially when you think you can make a name for yourself busting Sean Taylor. The judge threw the case out in a second - let's try blaming the cop for falsely arresting Sean Taylor.

So not only was he INNOCENT and Jansen brought it up, it's inappropriate. You don't put anyones personal life out there like that. That's not a good way to build team chemistry, and Jansen was in the wrong 100%. You think he should ever say "LaVar needs to come to camp, I know his cousin has cancer, but that's really not an excuse." How would you feel then? No matter the reason - leave personal stuff out of it.
So I guess you missed the part where he skipped practice and got suspended due to the incident. To me that makes it not simply his "personal life" but also his professional life and therefore fair game.
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Old 05-05-2005, 11:07 PM   #103
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So the next time a player pulls some diva crap ON the field and you applaud/support or otherwise condone it; Don't bitch when they pull the same crap OFF the field.
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So I guess you missed the part where he skipped practice and got suspended due to the incident. To me that makes it not simply his "personal life" but also his professional life and therefore fair game.
good point, if it effects the team in any way I say it's fair game too.
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Old 05-08-2005, 07:08 PM   #105
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Living in Texas all we get is Cryboys news and even Parcells said he is going with character guys.......no thugs or hoodlums.......Maybe Gibbs and Parcells can start a good character rival in the NFL...but I doubt it you will always have an Al Davis that will pay top dollars for the renegades.........

But if we are honest even Joe Gibbs had his share of crazy guys.......as much as I love Riggo he was "unique", then there was tempermental Gary Clark, and the case of Dexter Manley....the difference is that although these guys were a little off the wall, they LOVED the game, and winning meant more to them then stats and being in the record book......that's the difference from yestertoday and today.......malcontents like Moss, Shockey, etc....you have the feeling their most important priority is collecting their pay check and to hell with their team and the game.
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