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Old 05-12-2005, 08:31 AM   #16
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Re: Gibbs: Redskins, Holdman Agree

Anyone got the past stats on Holdman?
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Old 05-12-2005, 08:34 AM   #17
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Old 05-12-2005, 08:38 AM   #18
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Sweet, I get lazy sometimes.

Judging by stats alone, this guy is a great pickup. I guess we need all this depth because of how important the LB is in Williams' defense.
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Old 05-12-2005, 08:38 AM   #19
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I agree the writing is most likely on the wall for Barrow
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The Barrow situation is terribly disappointing. He was a good pickup, real production guy with little to no injury history at all. Shows how older guys just deteriorate at sucha great speed. Especially at high impact positions.
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Too bad he changed his number for NUTHIN'.
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Old 05-12-2005, 09:01 AM   #22
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Yeah Barrow is DEFINITELY gone after June 1 now. The salary cap space will be needed for the rookies.

Holdman was awesome back when Blache and Lindsay had him in Chicago, but he got hurt and hasn't been the same player since. But it's been a few years since that injury, so hopefully he's healthy now. I don't think this signing is anything to get too excited about, which is exactly what we need, if that makes any sense. We need players who will fit comfortably into our scheme (we know he will after playing for Blache) for a very low price. He got signed last year for one year, $1.4 million in Cleveland, and he didn't earn a bigger contract. I'd be willing to bet we got him for close to the veteran minimum.
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Old 05-12-2005, 09:53 AM   #23
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i'm glad we signed him, you can't have too much experience. maybe his strengths mirror some of our weaknesses.i doubt we payed alot for this muffler lol, it's a good signing.way to go skins. maybe we'll see them sign some cheap but talent from here on out, who knows.by the way how's everyone doin? it's a beautiful day,and all i'm missing is a hammock.
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[QUOTE=56FAN]i'm glad we signed him, you can't have too much experience. maybe his strengths mirror some of our weaknesses.i doubt we payed alot for this muffler lol, it's a good signing.way to go skins. maybe we'll see them sign some cheap but good talent from here on out, who knows.by the way how's everyone doin? it's a beautiful day,and all i'm missing is a hammock
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This is a shock to me. We have so many LB's, maybe they are just trying to push people in camp. Kind of strange we picked up Holdman though because last year before we got Washington I wanted us to get Holdman.
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Does anyone have any idea why we have this many LB's on our roster when, from what I can think, we have two probowlers on the outside who will be more than just mainstays in the lineup to say the least! I like the Holdman move.....with Blache and Lindsay being familiar with him......does anyone think that Lavar is going to be coming off the edge A LOT more this year....just a strange thing to pick up another LB when we run the 4-3.......could Williams mix the 3-4 a little this year since we haven't really looked hard at DT's or DE's.....except for UDFA???? I know its a long stretch....but just wondering what others thought??????
Last year at this time we had a few people raise that same question. Head Coach Defense Williams likes to have good depth at the LB positon. After the large amount of injuries at the LB position last seasonr, his overstocking of the LB position made sense. Especialy since the defense played so well despite missing 2 of 3 starting LB's Arrington and Barrow. Add to that replacement starter Khary Campbell tore his ACL in game 9 and missed the rest of the season. It is just coach Williams way and it seems to work. Plus LB's generally help out better at special teams than say having extra WR's.
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I'd really doubt that. How many years are left on his current contract?
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I'd really doubt that. How many years are left on his current contract?

I think he has either 5 or 6 more. Arrington isn't going anywhere. I wish some of us here would get that thought out of their heads.
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Why would anyone WANT him to go either? Freelancer or whatever he is, he is talented and doesn't get nominated to Pro Bowls because of his outgoing personality.
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Why would anyone WANT him to go either? Freelancer or whatever he is, he is talented and doesn't get nominated to Pro Bowls because of his outgoing personality.
One very good reason : Is Arrington really the money/salary cap space space he takes up? .
He missed most of last season and our defense still ranked #3 in the NFL. The guy that played in place of Arrington is not as explosive of a player, but he makes a fraction of what Arrington is making and is an adequate player.

If you examine the spending habits of the consistantly winning teams (in contrast to our spending habits) like the Eagles or Patriots... when one of their great players contract is up and if the player askes for a huge contract, they usually (not always) just cut them. For example the Eagles gave up both of their starting/probowl CB's last year, instead signing them to huge deals and the Eagles still made it to the Super Bowl.
Look at our deals with WR Moss and Brunell.
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